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| 101. Wednesday, September 13, 2006 2:24 PM |
| PaleThinMan |
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Amercain release in November !!!!!???? YEAHHH!!!!
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| 102. Wednesday, September 13, 2006 3:10 PM |
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Is there any sort of confirmation of that though? Or just an AICN guy pulling a random month out of his ass?
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| 103. Wednesday, September 13, 2006 6:27 PM |
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| QUOTE:Is there any sort of confirmation of that though? Or just an AICN guy pulling a random month out of his ass? | It was "word on the street" but that still means its being talked, that has to count for something.
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| 104. Wednesday, September 13, 2006 6:45 PM |
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Regarding MD criticisms I also have beef with MD, but I love it for it's imperfections. Namely, Betty Elms. The only thought going through my head the first time I saw it up until the love scene, was, "You have got to be kidding." I waned to smack her. But it made the plot turn that much more of a relief. Yay- I'm supposed to not like her! Just the fact that I was able to feel strongly about a character redeemed the movie entirely for me. I still think Betty (prior to the opening of the box) is an insipid twit, and I'm happy that she puts one in her head.
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| 105. Wednesday, September 13, 2006 7:06 PM |
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What?! I agree that it's probably hard to like that movie if you don't like Betty/Diane (well, ok they're not quite the same... but this isn't the place for that) but... why? I think Naomi Watts turns in an incredibly poweful performance in that movie (as Isabella Rossellini and Sheryl Lee before her... Lynch works well with actresses with little experience but loads of talent...). And you are definitely supposed to sympathize with Diane. It's too bad you didn't like her though... it probably makes the movie hard to appreciate.
That god damn trailer's more popular than Uncle's Day in a whorehouse!
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| 106. Thursday, September 14, 2006 1:14 AM |
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Ok, this is my last off topic comment here. Promise. I just thought Betty's saccharine oooing, aahing and naievete was over the top and irritating. This doesn't reflect negatively on Naomi Watts, because that's how Betty was written. For good reason. Diane's guilty conscience made her that way. And just because Diane is guilty doesn't make it ok for her to put a hit out on her ex-girlfriend. I don't think we're supposed to sympathize with Diane, but pity her. She's pitiful. Don't get me wrong, I love Mulholland Dr. But I was very relieved that Betty wasn't for real.
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| 107. Thursday, September 14, 2006 2:08 AM |
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My father has the same opinion of the Betty and Rita segment. Said something like "Yeah, Mulholland Dr. is gorgeous but these two lesbian dodos running around hand in hand in L.A. trying to figure out their identities are just irritating!". I think they're meant to be that way and there is also a sort of pleasure seeing that a Betty Elms doesn't exist in reality. And the idealized Camilla that Diane figures out in Rita's persona, in her dream, is just so sweet, innocent and vulnerable that you just hate her as soon as you realize Camilla in the reality preferred to turn her back to their relationship and just become a Hollywood whore that lives off a dull film-maker's career.
"Did they scoff the whole damn Smörgåsbord?" (Audrey) "Gimme a donut!" (Coop)
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| 108. Thursday, September 14, 2006 11:25 AM |
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QUOTE:My father has the same opinion of the Betty and Rita segment. Said something like "Yeah, Mulholland Dr. is gorgeous but these two lesbian dodos running around hand in hand in L.A. trying to figure out their identities are just irritating!".
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I think I love your dad, Mr. Silencio! That's a riot! Susan
“Half a truth is often a great lie.” Ben Franklin
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| 109. Thursday, September 14, 2006 7:20 PM |
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Huh, I liked Betty. Then again, I liked Annie, so consider the source.
-B
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| 110. Thursday, September 14, 2006 9:20 PM |
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Same here... they both have so much energy and excitement, filled with hopes and dreams. I like their naivete. Sandy in Blue Velvet, and Maddy are also similar characters. But I think Watts plays it best. When you first see her in the airport she's so happy and excited... I can't help but love her and feel happy just looking at her in that scene.
That god damn trailer's more popular than Uncle's Day in a whorehouse!
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| 111. Friday, September 15, 2006 7:26 AM |
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The reviews suggest the film is quite long. Do any of you think it will be cut for general release? Montana
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| 112. Friday, September 15, 2006 8:25 AM |
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| QUOTE: The reviews suggest the film is quite long. Do any of you think it will be cut for general release? Montana | All i hope is that we see what Lynch wants us to see. And usually his vision isn't compromised.
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| 113. Friday, September 15, 2006 9:32 AM |
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| QUOTE: The reviews suggest the film is quite long. Do any of you think it will be cut for general release? Montana |
I would be very surprised to see it changed from the form that ran at Venice simply for the fact of how adamant DL is with regard to final cut. To shorten the film would only be done for commercial reasons, to fit into the Hollywood Cinema Chain's little blue box. And I don't think he makes films for commercial reasons.
To quote DL: "A painter paints a painting, nobody comes in and says 'You gotta change that...blue'. And it's a joke to think that a film is gonna mean anything if somebody else fiddles (here he's doing the wiggly finger thing, I love that) with it....The filmaker decides on every single element, every single word, every single sound, every single thing going down that highway through time. Otherwise, it won't hold together." (more wiggly fingers) And to quote Gordon Cole, well, ok, not really but I can imagine him yelling: "Ya gotta have final cut, Coop!" This is why you'll never see the words "Director's Cut" on any of DL's DVD cases...because what was released to the public from day one is the Director's Cut. Dune aside.
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| 114. Friday, September 15, 2006 10:17 AM |
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Lynch was forced to cut Blue Velvet to two hours: That was a great movie, in my opinion Lynch's best. When the studio forced him to shoot a closed ending to the TP pilot he made the MFAP dream sequence... he came up with Club Silencio when they made him do a closed end to the Mulholland Dr. pilot. Sometimes studio tampering can be a good thing... Lynch's vision has never been compromised by studios so I wouldn't worry about this one. If it's cut down it might actually make the film better... you never know.
That god damn trailer's more popular than Uncle's Day in a whorehouse!
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| 115. Friday, September 15, 2006 11:37 AM |
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| QUOTE: Lynch was forced to cut Blue Velvet to two hours: That was a great movie, in my opinion Lynch's best. When the studio forced him to shoot a closed ending to the TP pilot he made the MFAP dream sequence... he came up with Club Silencio when they made him do a closed end to the Mulholland Dr. pilot. Sometimes studio tampering can be a good thing... Lynch's vision has never been compromised by studios so I wouldn't worry about this one. If it's cut down it might actually make the film better... you never know. |
Point taken, but BV came on the heels of Dune, and DL was just happy to have complete creative control and final cut, with the exception of the two hour thing and a budget about six times as small. He had a contract with De Laurentiis from the start of his deal with them, to develop future projects, he knew that he had to make it 2 hours long and so he had to make the whole enchilada fit into the one tortilla. He knew that ahead of time. Dune put De Laurentiis $20 million in the hole, iirc, and so here's his chance to redeem. As far as the others go, they all involve adding to, not taking away from. DL, as Theroux said in Venice, has listened to just about every suggestion he has ever seen made on set, creatively for the film, by cast or crew, and has usually been incorporated in some form or another. He also likes the "happy accidents"...goes along with intuitive filmmaking. And this is the main point, he didn't go into IE with a structured script in his hand, nor (as far as I understand it) a fully formed picture in his head of what the finished project will look like until he began post production. There was no "pitch" of an idea to anybody to get an initial backer. This was completely and totally his pure artistic vision. But my earlier statement was a blanket statement, and you are right. He didn't have absolute control of BV, because of the time constraint in his contract. With TP we're talking television here, and so weekly ratings and Aaron Spelling's wishy-washiness overrode any artistic vision in the end. But the DL we know today...I just have a hard time believeing that he would cut one single frame anymore. His give-a-sh*t factor with regard to studios and executive producers is now -0-. Budget is not a constraint, especially when shooting on DV, and I just can't see him doing it. Of course I haven't seen the film yet, and I am not DL, so ya never know.
"Every day is a Saturday morning." -DL
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| 116. Friday, September 15, 2006 12:04 PM |
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For some reason I can't paste the link here, but there's a new review from Reuters Just search for inland empire lynch on google and it will come up. Another bitter review. The reviewer complains that IE had potential that is swamped by incomprehesible images. There are some details not mentioned elsewhere before, so be warned. Not that IE really CAN have spoilers, lol. 
This would look good on your wall. -Noah-
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| 117. Friday, September 15, 2006 12:14 PM |
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Here you go Mrs. Tremond. Susan
“Half a truth is often a great lie.” Ben Franklin
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| 118. Tuesday, September 19, 2006 9:41 AM |
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Article on the NYFF that mentions IE and U.S distribution: http://www.moviecitynews.com/Notepad/2006/060918_npd.html
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| 119. Tuesday, September 19, 2006 10:00 AM |
| Rabid Muse |
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Heh heh...the media rules the world and the Pharmaceutical Companies rule the media...
"Every day is a Saturday morning." -DL
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| 120. Tuesday, September 19, 2006 12:38 PM |
| jrg |
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http://www.premiere.com/article.asp?section_id=6&article_id=3104 Venice wrap-up with a a couple of paragraphs on IE.
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| 121. Thursday, September 21, 2006 5:29 PM |
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So I have a friend who works for an indie film distributor and we were discussing IE and he told me that the word in the business is that Netflix is actually very interested in purchasing it. So it might be a "straight-to-DVD" type thing.
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| 122. Thursday, September 21, 2006 8:02 PM |
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for those who mentioned spring 2007...are you serious? i was hoping for nowhere past december.
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| 123. Friday, September 22, 2006 6:45 AM |
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Thanks for the links! And thanks also because I added Children of Men to my list of movies to see this fall, which include (in case you're interested) The Departed, Babel, The Prestige, All The King's Men (Kate, baby Kate), Little Children (Kate again and Todd Field's follow up to In The Bedroom), Inland Empire (if it gets a distributor) and the one I just added.
"Every day holds a new beginning and every hour holds the promise of an Invitation to Love."
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| 124. Friday, September 22, 2006 2:48 PM |
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Oh i REALLY REALLY hope people dont miss out on seeing IE in the cinema!! That would just be wrong! Its one of those films that needs to be seen in a cinema...so need to be!! I really hope David doesnt let it go straight to DVD after all that work.
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| 125. Saturday, September 23, 2006 10:00 AM |
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I would love for it to come straight to DVD.
That way I dont have to wait 15 years after it leaves the theater to get a copy of my own.
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