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| 26. Saturday, July 18, 2009 5:06 PM |
| Audrey Horne |
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I agree. And I don't think there's a subpar actor or acting job in the group. I also agree with the idea that the most intense scenes are kept and that what might put a damper on it for me -that it is always at level 10. I think Sheryl Lee was nominated for a Razzie for this, and it's such a cheap shot -she has a Herculian task to have to carry -what I think is- an impossibly difficult movie.
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| 27. Sunday, July 19, 2009 8:46 AM |
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Sheryl was nominated for a Razzia? WTF. Then again, emotions are considered as something useless in today´s society. But the human spirit will ALWAYS have primitive and raw elements, to deny that is to deny the human nature. I can´t imagine another Laura Palmer. But I agree with Ivan Sputnik, FWWM could have been presented as a t-h-r-e-e part mini-series. Yes, that way the viewer would progressively been taken Laura Palmer´s wonderful world.
Let´s tip their power balance, tear down their crown, Educate the masses, let´s burn the white Lodge Down!
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| 28. Sunday, July 19, 2009 9:37 AM |
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Sheryl Lee was not nominated for a Razzie.
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| 29. Sunday, July 19, 2009 1:18 PM |
| Audrey Horne |
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nope, sorry my bad. She wasn't. I checked and couldn't find anything. Maybe I'm just remembering some of the punching bag reviews at the time. I really thought Bowie was nominated for some worst supporting actor award, but couldn't find anything.
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| 30. Wednesday, July 29, 2009 7:58 PM |
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| QUOTE: initially seen is hard to concentrate on because one is anxious to get to the town of Twin Peaks... and when that sign post popped up, some of us cheered. |
and some of us thought the first part was the best thing ever done
totally love it.
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| 31. Wednesday, July 29, 2009 9:48 PM |
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The more times I watch FWWM, the more I love it. Fully agree on the awesomeness of the soundtrack--some absolutely fantastic tunes. And some of the scenes in this movie, they just...wow. AND CARL! Ya gotta love Carl. I am a big fan of the Secret Diary of Laura Palmer, and to see some of that played out in that lil' beauty of a book on screen...yes, please. It has funny...it has sad...happy...creepy...weird...all of what makes Twin Peaks what it is. I will admit I wasn't as into it when it first came out because I was still hung up on wanting to know what happened to Cooper with the whole Bob thing, but then I went to it a second time in the theatre and was connected more to it. Then of course I had to have the soundtrack--and then the DVD (well, the VHS first LOL)...and just enveloped it from there. It's a whole new side to Laura--the good one that she talked about having in the book--and it just puts a wonderful spin--and also a sad one--to the series, as we see how everything went into a downward spiral for her. And Ray Wise...oh my goodness. He was just so...CREEPY. Loved it. "Look...there's dirt wayyyy under this fingernail...how do you know what she likes?" GAH! I am going off on a ramble...so suffice to say, FWWM has a happy spot on the DVD shelf next to the Gold Box. :)
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| 32. Thursday, July 30, 2009 8:10 AM |
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QUOTE: | QUOTE: initially seen is hard to concentrate on because one is anxious to get to the town of Twin Peaks... and when that sign post popped up, some of us cheered. |
and some of us thought the first part was the best thing ever done
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It's great. I only meant at the time when I saw it in the theater, it was hard to sit back and appreciate it because I wanted to get to the town. Happ's Diner alone is fantastic. wasn't knocking it, just pointing out it was almost impossible to appreciate it on the first watch.
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| 33. Thursday, July 30, 2009 9:35 AM |
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I haven't seen it. I've seen the first twenty minutes of it, but I just couldn't get into it, which is a shame because I love the Laura Palmer story and felt that was the dark heart of the show that was sorely missed in the latter half of Season 2. I just felt the bit with the two agents in Deer Meadow was pretty clunky and slow. I think it has a great opening though. Chris Isaak I just found wooden and Kiefer Sutherland just seems...confused. I feel stupid for not watching it all the way through as it looks absolutely fantastic really. Maybe I just wasn't in the mood for it.
There was a fiish..iinn the percolatrr!
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| 34. Thursday, July 30, 2009 2:36 PM |
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This is my favorite Lynch movie close to DUNE. I think its wonderful even thought he first half is different from the rest. I think it fits perfectly. The first half is describing and setting up the whole movie. The show humor is there and fades because it delves into Laura's life itself. It in itself is absoluely marvelous and I think it flows remarkably well.
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| 35. Sunday, August 23, 2009 4:20 PM |
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Definitely yes. I love FWWM. I understand why many TP fans don't, and why most people who never saw the show, dismiss it completely, but I absolutely love it. It's one of the most beautiful and disturbing movies I've ever watched and definitely one of my favorites. In many ways I prefer it over the tv show, and I love the show, so that's saying a lot.
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| 36. Sunday, August 23, 2009 5:23 PM |
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I think most would say that initially, they didn't care for FWWM, but after more viewings, it really grows on you.
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| 37. Sunday, August 23, 2009 8:34 PM |
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I first saw FWWM long after first seeing Twin Peaks as a kid (back then I only saw up to episode 14), and I didnt know what to make of it. Only after seeing the whole 29 episodes and rewatching Peaks did I begin to understand it more. I'm kind of on the fence about FWWM, but I can see why it was panned by some. I liked it but it wasnt "oh my fucking god" brilliant
"Ive got good news....that gum you like is going to come back in style!" "I'm a WHOLE DAMN TOWN!"
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| 38. Sunday, August 23, 2009 10:58 PM |
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I saw it 8 times in the cinema and couldnt work out what i thought of it! Its grown on me over the years and now i really lke it! I agree that the quirky humour isnt there like the series but then this film, i dont think, was meant to be like the series. You're seeing Laura's world as she see saw it after all. I like the first section of the film and the relationship between Chet and Sam and i appreciated learning more about the Theresa Banks murder. x
'Your former partner flew the coop, Coop'
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| 39. Monday, August 24, 2009 3:58 AM |
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I enjoyed the first half of FWWM. However, in the second half, I thought some of the action didn't make sense. Bobby's character shooting the guy always baffled me, because we have no indication Bobby has that remorse inside him when Cooper first questions him in the series. Also, the way Donna acted was strange. I'm not a fan of the second half, although it is beautifully filmed.
But I loved the beginning: David Bowie, Kiefer Sutherland and the conveinance store crowd!! I just wish we had seen more of them.
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| 40. Thursday, August 27, 2009 7:08 AM |
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QUOTE: But I loved the beginning: David Bowie, Kiefer Sutherland and the conveinance store crowd!! I just wish we had seen more of them.
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totally. that bowie/lodge meeting is the best scene I've ever scene. so fucking crazy.
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| 41. Thursday, September 3, 2009 5:12 AM |
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YES ! I'd hate to imagine life without this film ... I still get such a fright from the opening credits even though I know what's coming ! Phillip Jeffries reappearing and disappearing being my favourite scene. 'who d'you think this is here ?!!'
I mean it like it is .... like it sounds ...
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| 42. Thursday, September 3, 2009 5:23 AM |
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Watching FWWM then the TP Pilot back to back is probably the best thing i've ever witnessed on a TV screen. It really adds alot to both when they're fresh in your mind.
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| 43. Tuesday, September 8, 2009 5:08 AM |
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Yes...F**k YES!
I love this movie...it is so criminally underrated imo.
Perhaps, the movie pulled people out of their 'Twin Peaks' comfort zone...it could've been that there was a lot of resitance on this fact, hence the movies unpopularity.
The opening image of Leland's axe smashing in the TV...surely was a Lynch 'tip-off' that we would never look on the town of Twin Peaks and some of its characters...in the same light, as perhaps we had before.
What I will say is this...the scene from Laura outside 'the bang bang' and the 'log lady' touching her forehead...which leads to the triumvate of tunes 'Questions in a World', 'The Pink Room' and 'Blue Frank' has beome my favourite Lynch scene of all time (even topping Blue Velvet's In Dreams scene). Its just the greatest collage of sound and images that I've ever had the pleasure to witness...yes the subject matter is heavy and dark (no shit, its Lynch afterall) but the overall effect is visually and sonically breathtaking/stunning...the contrast between the Cruise tune which segues into the Lynch penned Pink Room/Blue Frank...is pure genius (although i'm loathe to use that term generally). To conclude, this scene is...both incredible & horrible, yet chaotically beautiful...it ends with a superb sublime crossfade from the dirtiest bar floor to the trees of Twin Peaks. 15mins+ of jaw dropping intensity.
Gotta also say that I preferred Moira Kelly as Donna...over LFB, but then I was never a fan of LFB from the TV series.
Sheryl Lee was absolutely outstanding as Laura in this movie...which seems to have never been really fully appreciated....its a remarkable performance.
FWWM is a big, fat and definite YES.
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| 44. Tuesday, September 8, 2009 7:31 AM |
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| QUOTE:I think most would say that initially, they didn't care for FWWM, but after more viewings, it really grows on you. |
^^ That.
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| 45. Friday, September 18, 2009 12:10 PM |
| pineweasel |
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To borrow one of Coolspringsj's expressions....."Hell to the Yeah"! Of course I LOVED it...still THE most dark, disturbing, and yet beautiful film (not to mention an incredible soundtrack) I've ever seen!
"Diane, I'm holding in my hand a small box of chocolate bunnies."
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| 46. Friday, September 18, 2009 1:18 PM |
| TheGreatWent |
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yes
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| 47. Friday, September 18, 2009 4:11 PM |
| Green Formica Table |
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Liked it!! As a movie on it's own, it needs work. So it would make a poor first glimpse of TP but as a wrap-up gone wrong, it was as good as it could be considering Lynch had the money to make it but not the passion to make it the way he wanted to. I think the studio broke his link with the project when they made him tell the TP audience whodunnit. So FWWM stands as a quirky, facinating, attention-grabbing, modern parable that every viewer experienced differently and a difference that some of us experience to this day every time we watch it. The Hollywood Screenwriter's Dictionary defines "other people's editing" as an experience not unlike having your newborn child urinated on and then run through a meat grinder -- twice.
I just watched the quarreling of the pawn scene this morning over on CBS.com and drew yet another layer of insight out of my latest download. Twin Peaks remains full of new connectednesses and intricacies even now! Is it just me or does the TP scene have a lot of visual puns. Quarreling with a guy in a pawn suit, then the shooting him with a crossbow bolt or quarrel. Leo and Jaques doing naughty stuff in front of Waldo thus contributing to the delinquency of a Minah?
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| 48. Wednesday, November 4, 2009 5:09 AM |
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I will say yes, but it wasn't at all what I expected. At the risk of being spoiled for who murdered Laura, I did basically no research on what the film was like, nor did I assume that it would be like any of Lynch's other works. I figured it would be more 'Twin Peaks' than something like 'Inland Empire'. Throughout the entire series they paint such a dark and tormented picture of Laura Palmer, so I was incredibly intrigued to see her character and what she was like, how she interacted with those around her etc. Sheryl Lee did a phenomenal job! However, I felt a lot of this film was very Lynch-esque because he could...not because it matched what was happening. I didn't expect it to be a mirror image of the series, but I expected it to be more of the same that had been presented to us during Season 1+2.
The Laura Palmer story is dark and tormented, as well as being interlaced with a fair bit of sexually explicit material, and I have to say it was executed perfectly...even if it strayed along way from the series. It's a haunting story that I don't know if I will watch again in a hurry, mainly because it shook me to the core like no film has in a long time.
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| 49. Wednesday, November 4, 2009 9:25 PM |
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I thought it was great. After the fantastic TV series ended and a year had passed with complete TP withdrawal the opening of FWWM was a must see. No TV screen for one thing, here was a full tilt cinema film on a weekday summer afternoon! The film engulphed you (me) and the big screen and full tilt sound made it a powerful EXPERIENCE . A powerful, visual and sonic trip. One plus was it put you right there, right in the middle of the story, you were there in the Pink Room.
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| 50. Tuesday, November 10, 2009 3:20 AM |
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I loved the idea, the concept of the film: the last days of Laura Palmer. It would be so dark and so sad. But, to me, the biggest problem (after watching 4 o 5 times FWWM) is always Sheryl Lee. It's a too difficult part for an actress like her. Anyway, there are still some beautiful scenes in the film (when I think of TP, I do always remember the "Question in a world of blue" scene).
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