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| 26. Sunday, January 24, 2010 3:49 AM |
| Henry Kane |
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I know, fans usually tend to analyze every single detail in his movies and find a hidden meaning in pretty much everything - while most of these details don't have one. In some interview, concerning rabbits in the "Inland Empire" (there's been a discussion about their meaning also, people even tried to explain"Rabbits" through IE), Lynch said he just liked them there and meant nothing specific. I think it can be applied to some TP things too. They create an atmosphere, that's all. C'mon, even "Cinderella" can be analyzed using Jung and Freud, but that doesn't mean it really is that deep.
Bob being real, and not a representation, is a simpliest variant, and it fits. If we remove him as a corporeal, we get a big hole in the plot.
And the slogan can be interpreted in various ways.
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| 27. Sunday, January 24, 2010 6:11 AM |
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Bob probably appears wearing anything that fits in that time era, in order to blend in and give the person the idea that he COULD be a real person walking around. He could have appeared in 50s clothes when Leland saw him.
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| 28. Sunday, January 24, 2010 6:18 AM |
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Wow, somehow it's hilarious to imagine Bob in 50s clothing...
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| 29. Sunday, January 24, 2010 6:22 AM |
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| QUOTE: Wow, somehow it's hilarious to imagine Bob in 50s clothing... |
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| 30. Monday, January 25, 2010 12:14 AM |
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QUOTE:I know, fans usually tend to analyze every single detail in his movies and find a hidden meaning in pretty much everything - while most of these details don't have one. In some interview, concerning rabbits in the "Inland Empire" (there's been a discussion about their meaning also, people even tried to explain"Rabbits" through IE), Lynch said he just liked them there and meant nothing specific. I think it can be applied to some TP things too. They create an atmosphere, that's all. C'mon, even "Cinderella" can be analyzed using Jung and Freud, but that doesn't mean it really is that deep.
Bob being real, and not a representation, is a simpliest variant, and it fits. If we remove him as a corporeal, we get a big hole in the plot.
And the slogan can be interpreted in various ways.
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Yes, Lynch has said that he doesn't know what the rabbits in Inland Empire mean. Lynch has also said that Bob is an abstraction in a form of man (read Chris Rodley's Lynch on Lynch).
Sometimes cigar is just a cigar. Sometimes cigar is just a symbol for something else. Sometimes a cigar is both. In the case of Twin Peaks Bob quite certainly is both.
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| 31. Monday, January 25, 2010 7:31 AM |
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Yes, Lynch has said that he doesn't know what the rabbits in Inland Empire mean. Lynch has also said that Bob is an abstraction in a form of man (read Chris Rodley's Lynch on Lynch). Sometimes cigar is just a cigar. Sometimes cigar is just a symbol for something else. Sometimes a cigar is both. In the case of Twin Peaks Bob quite certainly is both. |
So, you are saying basically Bob is a Tulpa or thoughform. Hence the show's Tibetan references. Leland's possible abuse when he was a kid, festering all of his life, the horror of what he did to his daughter was so strong, it created an actual physical entity. (Actually several?) Hmm. I have think on that.
My line of reasoning comes from thinking about Lost Highway, where the mysterious man may have just been a representation of the evil/murder in Bill Pullman or how he made up a compete alternate reality to cover up what he did, or how some people say that the Lady in the Radiator in Eraserhead was the character's guilt...
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| 32. Monday, January 25, 2010 8:03 AM |
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I think he's saying BOB's not just a symbol, but real as well. Both a demon and an idea ("evil that men do"). Leland creating a whole supernatural world because of his childhood abuse not only seems wrong, it was never hinted at. Okay, he may have created BOB, but MFAP? MIKE? Red Room? That's too much for some molested guy. Another thing I don't get is why some people think BOB ever was human just because Leland said there was this man named Robertson living above the convenience store. As we see in FWWM, this room above the store is simply something of a meeting place for Black Lodge spirits. And BOB easily could tell Leland his name is Robertson, just for fun. Eraserhead was never actually explained. It's just what fans think.
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| 33. Tuesday, January 26, 2010 6:06 AM |
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I thought BOB, Mike, etc. used to be human because of Windon Earl's explanation of them. He said they were Dugpas, which is an ancient religion. Also, when he said " I tell you they did not die" when he took Annie to the Lodge.
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| 34. Tuesday, January 26, 2010 7:29 AM |
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Well, the real dugpas were Buddhist monks, nowhere near as powerful and scary as some writers may portray them. It was also said BOB and MIKE are ancient, and that they "lived with humans". That's what only an inhuman being can say. Maybe "dugpas" is just an explanation, a description. Like comparing BL spirits to the ancient order. The word "lodge" has a lot of meanings. Trying to analyze each and every word is pointless, anyway. I prefer not to see what hasn't been shown, else it resembles astrology.
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