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1. Thursday, November 15, 2007 2:26 PM
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I have heard both yes and no to this question.  Does anybody here know if Lynch is a freemason or not?  If he is, what do you think about that given the shit upper freemasons are into? If he is, it would go a long way to explain the masonic symbols that are sprinkled throughout Twin Peaks.  Any help would be great...thanks all!

 
2. Thursday, November 15, 2007 5:14 PM
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Anecdotally, I think most of the traditional symbolic systems that worked their way into Twin Peaks were the result of Mark Frost's personal interest, and the research of the writing staff as they tried to weird things up to fulfil the reputation the show had gained by the second season.  I can't think of much Lynch work outside of TP that shares this kind of explicit symbolism; Dave seems like more of an archetypey, DIY kinda guy.


 
3. Thursday, November 15, 2007 7:19 PM
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You might want to check the following website to make sure you know how to properly determine if someone is a Freemason.

It opens doors, I'm telling you.

1980- The Elephant Man, dir. David Lynch 


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4. Thursday, November 15, 2007 6:45 PM
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The Twin Peaks chat room is located on a mason's website. That's a fact.

 
5. Thursday, November 15, 2007 6:55 PM
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QUOTE:I have heard both yes and no to this question.  Does anybody here know if Lynch is a freemason or not?  If he is, what do you think about that given the shit upper freemasons are into? If he is, it would go a long way to explain the masonic symbols that are sprinkled throughout Twin Peaks.  Any help would be great...thanks all!

 And just WHERE did you hear that he was a mason? I sincerely doubt it. The book Pervert in the Pulpit goes to great lengths to paint Lynch as a strict puritan, which is pretty ridiculous. Some folks will buy just about anything.

 
6. Thursday, November 15, 2007 7:21 PM
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QUOTE:And just WHERE did you hear that he was a mason? I sincerely doubt it.
The Straight Story is a shriner movie.

 
7. Thursday, November 15, 2007 8:48 PM
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I don't mean to start a debate here....I just have a couple of friends who are mason's who are also huge Lynch fans.  They both, on unrealated events have pointed out to me the 'secret' symbolism that is in Twin Peaks as well as Inland Empire.  I was just asking if anyone knew for sure....I thought it was interesting.  By the way, Mark Frost also uses masonic themes throughout his work, especially 'The List of Seven'. 

 
8. Thursday, November 15, 2007 8:57 PM
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I want to join the bookhouse boys....

 
9. Friday, November 16, 2007 12:42 AM
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Lynch naked, blindfolded with a sword to his chest? Methinks not.

I've read all but the 2 most recent DL biographies out there in English, from the most crappily researched and speculative, to the most thoroughly researched and reliable (I recommend Lynch on Lynch and David Hughes' The Complete Lynch) and I have never, ever heard this.

Also, never saw any Freemason sh*t in TP. Are you thinking of Theosophy? If so, that is, as mentioned, a Mark Frost touch.

 
10. Saturday, November 17, 2007 2:25 PM
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For some reason, the fact that he was so into being a boy scout makes me think he could be a mason, though I don't know if he is or not. Somebody working on Twin Peaks was interested in masonic or pseudo-masonic stuff (e.g., "lodges", "the bookhouse boys"). Mark Frost would be my guess. What is masonic about IE?


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11. Saturday, November 17, 2007 2:50 PM
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QUOTE:For some reason, the fact that he was so into being a boy scout makes me think he could be a mason, though I don't know if he is or not. Somebody working on Twin Peaks was interested in masonic or pseudo-masonic stuff (e.g., "lodges", "the bookhouse boys"). Mark Frost would be my guess. What is masonic about IE?

 Being interested in things Masonic & actually BEING one are 2 different things (read the Illuminatus! trilogy for the craziest Masonic tangents).  Famously, the Black Lodge ring (Masonic -looking symbol) was found in a thrift shop/ yard sale or something. Yes, Frost has a thing for secret societies. Or haven't you read List of 7 & 6 Messiahs?

 
12. Saturday, November 17, 2007 5:23 PM
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dont know who put this term in the series, but "dweller on the threshold" is a masonic term used in initiation rites. i dont think for a second lynch or frost are masons. one of the rules of freemasonry is not to talk about freemasonry to non-masons. but i do see many symbols and abstractions in TP that are of an esoteric nature, and its splitting hairs to define them as theosophy or freemasonry or the illuminati or alchemy or the freakin hermetic order of the golden dawn. all of these are known as 'mystery schools' and as such share a main concern, the unknown or occult phenomenology of existence and the awakening of our consciousness to those unknown realms. to me, that sounds pretty much like how lynch describes his own work. and you dont have to be a mason to be aware of these ideas.
i bet it helps tho. 

 
13. Sunday, November 25, 2007 11:34 PM
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QUOTE:

dont know who put this term in the series, but "dweller on the threshold" is a masonic term used in initiation rites. i dont think for a second lynch or frost are masons. one of the rules of freemasonry is not to talk about freemasonry to non-masons. but i do see many symbols and abstractions in TP that are of an esoteric nature, and its splitting hairs to define them as theosophy or freemasonry or the illuminati or alchemy or the freakin hermetic order of the golden dawn. all of these are known as 'mystery schools' and as such share a main concern, the unknown or occult phenomenology of existence and the awakening of our consciousness to those unknown realms. to me, that sounds pretty much like how lynch describes his own work. and you dont have to be a mason to be aware of these ideas.
i bet it helps tho.

 

I honestly could not agree more. 


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14. Monday, November 26, 2007 2:35 AM
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My partner is a Freemason.  I don't know where all the "weird shit happens" rumours come from, but I can honestly say it's an exceptionally ordinary experience and doesn't have a huge impact on the lives of anyone who belongs to his Lodge. 

Except the goats and the apron-makers. 

 

 


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15. Tuesday, November 27, 2007 5:30 AM
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Well, he IS a mason in the sense that he likes building stuff with his bare hands - which kind of goes back to the origins of the Freemasons.

I dunno, the only two Masons I've met in my life were a craft teacher and a set builder respectively, so it isn't totally beyond the realms of possibility IMO. He certainly wouldn't talk about it if he was one, so I doubt we'll ever know either way....


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16. Wednesday, November 28, 2007 5:57 AM
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Hey out there - Do you consider the Freemasons to be a Black Lodge or a White Lodge ?? Personally I think they're a Grey Lodge but that's my opinion. Just wondering.

 
17. Wednesday, November 28, 2007 6:55 AM
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I would consider the real Freemasons to be a Black Lodge.  When you do the research, you will find that the masons, like every other secret society/network, are good on the surface but have dark secrets.  In fact, most masons don't ever know what they are involved in.  Most never make it out of the blue degrees (first 3 degrees).  The people at the top (33 degree) are the ones into all the craziness.  It's not a conspiracy theory that Washington DC is built based on freemasonic design.  I design that when traced on a map not only shows satanic symbolism, but an owl (which represents one of the freemasonic 'gods'.)  Same with the dollar bill.  The dollar contains a pentagram  that points the the letters m-a-s-o-n.  Do some research and find out what these organisations are all about.  Did you know that Micheal Richards (Kramer) is a 33rd degree mason? 

I just figured with all the weirdness and symbolism of Lynch, that it wouldn't be too far of a stretch to imagine him being a mason.  Anyway, your replies have been appriciated!

 
18. Wednesday, November 28, 2007 7:16 AM
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I thought the Lodge was more Frost's deal, but I might be wrong. The Lodge isn't even mentioned until episode 17.


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19. Wednesday, November 28, 2007 8:42 AM
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QUOTE:

Did you know that Micheal Richards (Kramer) is a 33rd degree mason?


In the black lodge?

 
20. Wednesday, November 28, 2007 6:25 PM
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QUOTE:
QUOTE:

Did you know that Micheal Richards (Kramer) is a 33rd degree mason?


In the black lodge?

 LOL!  I could see Kramer getting all tangled up in the redroom curtains as he trys to bust in like it's Jerry's apartment!

 
21. Wednesday, November 28, 2007 8:19 PM
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QUOTE:LOL! I could see Kramer getting all tangled up in the redroom curtains as he trys to bust in like it's Jerry's apartment!

I was thinking more about the Laugh Factory incident.

 
22. Thursday, November 29, 2007 8:39 AM
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QUOTE:LOL! I could see Kramer getting all tangled up in the redroom curtains as he trys to bust in like it's Jerry's apartment!

I was thinking more about the Laugh Factory incident.

 No, I got ya....but I couldn't resist the opportunity for a seinfeld meets twin peaks joke.

 
23. Friday, December 14, 2007 10:11 AM
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But those symbols were all pulled from other religions and cults. What I hate about secret societies is that they can't come up with anything original. (Which is another argument against Freemason influence on TP. It's just another unoriginal, imaginary series of meaningless signs that bears the most similarity to Theosophy.)

 
24. Friday, December 14, 2007 12:13 PM
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Y'know what's really annoying?

Is that moderator's on this website say whatever the hell they want regardless of topic, and insult those of us who are new and just want to talk about certain elements of Twin Peaks.

[jamie waits for impending insults] 


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25. Friday, December 14, 2007 1:06 PM
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QUOTE:

Y'know what's really annoying?

Is that moderator's on this website say whatever the hell they want regardless of topic, and insult those of us who are new and just want to talk about certain elements of Twin Peaks.

[jamie waits for impending insults] 


 Umm...Ok. I've never seen ANY moderator insult anyone who is new here. That, my friend, would be other members on this board.

As one of the admins on this board, we all agreed that you guys are going to moderate yourselves. If that means some of you insult one another, that's fine. We've been through TOO much with some people on htis board, and we're tired of holding your hands because you come cry to us that feelings were hurt.

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