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26. Friday, June 24, 2011 10:12 AM
mtl RE: FWWM school bus scene


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everything is put there for a reason..


 ok, this is why we'll never agree anyway. I just quoted this little part of your post, but it aint taking out of context. it's just that there are things he just puts there for the sake of it, yeah he does.

 

and yes I love to analyse his movies. why couldnt we analyse dreams? it's a fucking dream. I've been reading you for a couple of years now and I always looked at you as a fucking great twin peaks lover. I am too. but you're just wrong with your theory, if you have one anyway.

yes the first part of FWWM is fucking mega. it's my favorite part of this TP world. Sam Stanley - brilliant. Chirs Isaak is amazing. Carl Rodd - he's up there with Agent Cooper, man. but it's too much the opposite of Twin Peaks and with all those 'we do need a good wake up' and 'it was fresh 2 days ago' shit, it just shows us it's a fucking DREAM.

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27. Wednesday, June 29, 2011 10:10 AM
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I still don't see what makes one think Deer Meadow is a dream.

Alright, it could be a dream.  Alright, suppose some things in Lynchworld have no particular meaning. But since there is no clear indication saying: "this sequence was/ will be a dream" - then what supports it? What are the grounds of abandoning the obvious and linear interpretation that it is just a prologue about what happened a year earlier?

Of course one could take it as an inspiring hypothesis, something thought-provoking. That is a sufficient reason I suppose. But if so - tell me again: what thoughts does it provoke, what does it add to the world of Twin Peaks and particularly the film Fire Walk With Me?

Because personally speaking, as far as I can find it kind of interesting, I don't perceive this theory as useful.


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28. Sunday, July 3, 2011 7:16 AM
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I guess this is something you either accept or you don't. To me the dream theory makes more sense than any other "explanation" for the Deer Meadow investigation I've read. Without going back into every detail that makes it convincing (and crucial) for me, I also believe that the Deer Meadow Dream reflects a change in attitude David Lynch must have experienced between Season 1 and Season 2.

I think David Lynch was dissatisfied with the way he had treated Cooper's dream in Episode 1.2. The scene probably went on to become the stereotypic "dream" scene for movies, with random surrealism, dwarves, backwards talking, etc, but we all know that this is not how people dream in real life. Lynch also knew and that's why I think he placed a crucial speech of Major Briggs at the start of Season 2 (see my earlier thread on the subject), delineating what is dream and what is vision.

In some sense, actually, you could say that everything after Season 1 is geared toward providing some justification for the Red Room scene in Episode 1.2: what is the Red Room, why was Cooper old, what is Laura doing in it, who is the MFAP, where does the backward talking come from, etc? This is never more true than in FWWM. The point is that the dream theory is conceptually plausible if you accept that David Lynch wanted to create a "realistic dream sequence" to contrast it to the Red Room visions in Episodes 1.2 and 2.22.

Aside from this, FWWM is just more intriguing to me with the dream theory in mind. Same goes for other movies with theories in this vein, such as Once Upon A Time in America and Vertigo.


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29. Tuesday, August 9, 2011 11:15 PM
MargaretLanternman RE: FWWM school bus scene


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I always assumed this was a botched bus hijacking...



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