Just read about Twin Peaks on imdb. In the quotes for the final episode, it says that MFAP steps on an insect after saying "When you see me again, it won't be me". I wonder who wrote these quotes and if they are taken from the script. If it is indeed an insect, I wonder how it should be interpreted. An evil act by MFAP maybe, signalling that his doppelganger has taken over or is about to do so. Here is the link for the quotes:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0734815/quotes

I also read in the imdb trivia that Leland's clothes have the floor pattern from the lodge/Eraserhead when he is dancing with the picture of Laura. I will need to check that.

Christian

I've never thought about LMFAP crushing an insect in that scene. I've thought of it as his way of showing the "pecking order" of some sort. This insect thing is certainly an interesting thought!

And what comes to the pattern on Leland's clothes, I checked it quickly out on Youtube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQZXikshjqQ

At first it seemed like there's no pattern at all but, holy hell, look at him coming closer to the camera! There's the pattern! I've never noticed it before. It could be just a coincidence but I kinda doubt it... Or at least I'd like to think it was put there on purpose.

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Rami Airola: the pecking order theory is nice and I think it fits well with the idea of MFAP crushing an insect - it shows that he is in charge and that everyone else in there is small compared to him. Well, that is one interpretation of it anyway.

Cooped: I hope you didn't mean it this way but your post makes it sound like there is some rule somewhere saying that we cannot discuss things from the script unless they are explicitly stated in the show. I would say most of what is discussed in here are the things that are open to interpretation; what is explicit is not very interesting to discuss, is it? I'm not saying that, because it is stated on imdb, the insect theory must be the correct one but it is a theory that I like. And I also think that people should be allowed to discuss what they want; those who are not interested in a thread can simply ignore it.

Btw, I would recommend the new Twin Peaks podcast that was announced here recently. It is very entertaining I think :-)

Christian

But this insect is seen or not? I don't remember now. I vaguely recall Little Man doing some strange move with his leg but never really paid attention to it. So I have checked this screenplay quote - but does it show on screen?

And the pattern on Leland - yes, it's there indeed! Probably doesn't matter and is just a matter of coincidence. But then...? After all it is in this very episode that he dances and the Little Man dances for the first time... Adn later Cooper says that these two dances were closely connected, in fact Little Man's dance in the dream was to be a representation of Leland dancing in real life. Ha!

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The herringbone pattern shown on Leland as he dances is undoubtedly NOT just a coincidence.  In Episode 2 he is shown wearing the jacket while he dances, and the very next scene is when Cooper has "The Dream" where MFAP dances.

The herringbone on Leland's jacket is beige and brown, as is the Red Room's carpet in that scene beige and brown (it looks like carpet, although every other time the Red Room is shown with black and white laminate or whatever it is).

I'm sorry, I support different people's opinions, but how could that just be a coincidence?  It's a little evidence that Leland was in fact hosted by Bob... especially since the scenes are back-to-back and have obvious parallels between Leland, the Red Room, and the MPAP.

If someone had watched this episode in 1990 and recorded it, analyzed it, they probably could have figured out Leland/Bob killed Laura...  Much evidence is there... although the Leland/Bob possession wasn't clear by then.  Bob in Cooper's dream seems a little too worthy of being Laura's killer.

Myself I'm generally very poor in figuring out solutions to crime stories and so on - but really I don't think one could have guessed Leland was the killer out of Episode 2! Yes, perhaps the clues were there but understanding them and putting them together is a completely different matter, isn't it?

The possession thing doesn't seem clear enough even until Episode 13 when MIKE reveals it, and definitely not earlier than Episode 8 when it gets obvious that someone else than Leo & Jacques killed the girl.

Anyway I agree with your first three paragraphs about the pattern being there on purpose. The stranger it seems that I've never noticed or even heard about it!

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Yeah... it may be a bit of a stretch to figure out that Leland was the killer in Episode 2.  I don't know, lol, when viewing the series again sometimes Leland seems so obvious.  Like when Sarah is talking about her vision of Bob, Leland takes off into another room... and sometimes the camera seemed to portray him in a dark manner.  I don't know though... it seemed they gave us very subtle clues about Leland... but yes the possession manner couldn't have been pieced together till Episode 13.

I'm glad you agree about the herringbone pattern, though.  Being a Lynch fan, I watch for little visual clues and parallels... those things are especially crucial in Lost Highway and Mulholland Drive.

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I don't think they thought about Leland from that early in the series... Lynch didn't want to reveal the killer, they shot scenes with Ben as the killer, etc. However, it's one of those happy cases where the revelation actually fits perfectly what is shown from the beginning... If you watch the Pilot, episode 1, 2, 3, etc. knowing that Leland did it you can see the 'clues' are there, he was the more logical choice,...

I think an important clue early on in the show that Leland is the killer is the dark music when he appears. It's not there every time but quite often. However, I think it's very hard to figure it out when watching the show for the first time.

About the insect: I don't think it's there in the scene but MFAP's step may still symbolize him killing it. I guess we will never know for sure about all these details :-)

I think I can guess the meaning of the word "noid" but even my Oxford's English dictionary doesn't include it ... it's not anything one could consume, is it?

so...

[josiepackardmode]what is "noid"?[/josiepackardmode]

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