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| 1. Monday, July 5, 2010 11:19 AM |
| mr.pinkles wrinkle |
funeral or autopsy? |
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Funeral or autopsy Recently i watched that TP – episode where Albert gets in an argument and a fight with different people in the morgue..Leland, Hayward and some others......The fight was over whether they should bury Laura or perform an autopsy......Albert wanted to perform an autopsy because this could reveal new clues about who murdered Laura……..and he said that they could have an funeral any day of the week, but he had to perform an autopsy almost immediately because of the chance that evidence could get lost………. Leland, Harry and others wanted an funeral……Why did they want this? I guess It had to do with dignity and respect for the dead, and taking consideration for her parents, mr. and mrs. Palmer….. But i am curious: how do you guys stand on this issue…..Do you take sides with Leland, hayward, sheriff Truman..etc….Or do you take sides with Albert? And what is your justification for taking the position that you do? I take sides with Albert in this matter. If I was Lauras parent I would have liked to get my hands on every evidence available so that they would have had a better chance catching the murderer…..(maybe Bob, through Leland, expressed the wish for a fast funeral so that the police/FBI would not get the chance to find every evidence through an thorough autopsy????)
i dont believe i've handed my gun over to anybody in my ENTIRE LIFE!!.......you wanna know something else i've never done?........I've never crossed the ocean.....Never got to China!
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| 2. Monday, July 5, 2010 12:50 PM |
| Maddy |
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Seen this episode about a gazillion times, so just to let you know Leland is actually not in this episode. Albert is already at the hospital doing the tests and argues with Doc Hayward and Ben Horne who states he is the representative of the Palmer family. Then when the scuffle gets underway, Harry and Andy come in to break it up, Albert insults Harry and Harry proceeds to smack him so he lands on Laura. (Also: did anyone else see the expression on Laura's face when they first shout "gentleman! woah!" She looks like she is really struggling to keep from laughing, I could distinctly see a smile on her face but it only lasts about a milisecond.)
Back to topic! As Albert and his team have just arrived, it is understandable that he wants some time to himself to find out what else may be in Laura's body, or what other evidence there could be. What he DOES find out is she had a cocaine habit, poker chip with letter J, twine used to bind her wrists and the birdbites from Waldo. In an earlier autopsy, Doc Hayward's friend Joe Fielding also discovers that she was raped and had sex with at least 3 men. So from Agent Coopert and Harry's point of view, you would think all if that gives them enough leads to get started on, along with evidence taken from Laura's room and the crimesite. I personally think Albert DOES need to et a grip, and like Ben and Cooper insist that he consider the feelings of the Palmer family. They have gone through the ordeal of their daughter being brutally murdered, the experience must be hard enough and still hasn't sunk in yet, so they probably want to have the funeral as soon as possible and get the hardest bit out of the way. Therefore, I think from the point of view of someone with compassion towards the family, their wishes should definetly be respected and Albert can get over it.
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| 3. Monday, July 5, 2010 5:58 PM |
| 12rainbow |
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I say it's bad scheduling in the land of make believe, which amounts to bad writing in reality.
Sure, drama-wise, whoever wants to bury the clues is finger-pointed as a suspect.
In reality, no one would bury an upper middle class white teenage multiple rape victim in a serial killer case without obtaining all evidence. This is especially important for the family of the victim in order to get closure.
Scene stretched credibility. But, hey. It's Twin Peaks.
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| 4. Tuesday, July 6, 2010 5:46 AM |
| Cooped |
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i agree, realistically it's not plausible, but hey, it's Peaks! And do you mean that Leland ain't in this scene, cos he is indeed in the episode, at least once. i think...
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| 5. Tuesday, July 6, 2010 8:43 AM |
| mr.pinkles wrinkle |
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Yeah, you are right, Maddy! I meant Horne was there, not Leland….. I’ll have to watch out for Lauras expression next time, have not seen it yet…….. I can not say I agree with you, Maddy, about the rightness of putting Laura in the ground before extracting/discovering every available evidence……You mention every clue(and an exhaustive list of autopsy – evidence, as far as I can tell….I think that is very impressive Maddy, that you remember all of those just off hand..….you must truly have watched TP a gazillion times!) that was found Albert and Joe Fielding, and that amounts to an relatively impressive list, I guess……..but I cant see that this is an argument for not doing more autopsy…….it’s more of an argument for doing more autopsy, because it shows that an autopsy works with regards to obtaining evidence and clues…….
I don’t know, Is it not almost egotistical, and obviously irrational, of the Palmer parents that they want an funeral instead of an autopsy, if the reason is, as you say maddy, they want to get the hardest bit out of the way…….
I think that you also don’t give a fair and accurate portrait of Albert’s intentions regarding the autopsy…..You almost say that Albert wants to do some autopsy because of the long flight to TP, almost as an stress – reliever or something like that……and you say that Albert “should get over it” with regards to being allowed to do the autopsy…You portray it as if he wants to do the autopsy just out of a selfish concern…...I think that Albert, even though he can be an asshole, have high moral standards (does he not mention that he follow the principle of non – violence…indicative of a moral sense…) …….and that he fights so vigourously for doing the autopsy, not because of selfish motives (like that it would further his career in the FBI or something like that) but because he sincerely cares for catching the evil guy that did this…..I think that this is a virtue nobody should get over……
12rainbow and cooped, you make a good point that I did not think of! Its not realistic, and that makes this dilemma about autopsy or funeral a fictional dilemma, a pseudo - dilemma…..?
I guess it is not realistic at all……and that gets us entertaining things like a guy punching another guy so that he ends up in the missionary position with a corpse!
i dont believe i've handed my gun over to anybody in my ENTIRE LIFE!!.......you wanna know something else i've never done?........I've never crossed the ocean.....Never got to China!
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| 6. Tuesday, July 6, 2010 10:38 AM |
| Penintu |
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And another one question - what else do you think could have been found in Lauras insides if Albert did an autopsy the way he wanted? I can't think of any more evidence.
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| 7. Tuesday, July 6, 2010 12:13 PM |
| mr.pinkles wrinkle |
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| QUOTE: And another one question - what else do you think could have been found in Lauras insides if Albert did an autopsy the way he wanted? I can't think of any more evidence. |
Maybe a license plate or a small wooden doll by the name of Pinocchio?...he,he....kidding besides, i was thinking of that earlier today.....i dont know.....maybe a more thorough check could have detected a drug that one could only find traces in, for example, some obscure body part like the amygdala or hippocampus......but thats really besides the point because Albert obviously thinks that he can find something, and he's the expert......at least on tv...not in real life - in real life he's just an actor...he, he......
i dont believe i've handed my gun over to anybody in my ENTIRE LIFE!!.......you wanna know something else i've never done?........I've never crossed the ocean.....Never got to China!
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