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| 26. Sunday, May 9, 2010 2:26 AM |
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i think you may have a good point Int...but alas, since the sequence happens in the way it does, it cannot be counted as Discontinuity. Much the same way that Buenos Ares cannot be called a Lodge portal, since it is not mentioned outside of FWWM script
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| 27. Monday, May 10, 2010 1:58 AM |
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QUOTE:So nobody concurs with me that this is Windom Earle in Bob's image emerging from the lodge portal at the end of Ep. 27? Who do you think this is there?
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I've always assumed that scene is suggesting the veil between worlds is lifting due to the planetary alignment. It's such a simple, uncluttered idea, it seems a shame to add unnecessary complications like Windom Earle leaving the Lodge in BOB's image.
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| 28. Monday, May 10, 2010 3:03 PM |
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No-one is born evil. Earle basically chose to be evil, plain and simple. You can tell by his manner, he enjoys being evil. He has nothing else but evil and the darkness. Many can relate...
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| 29. Tuesday, May 11, 2010 10:42 PM |
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QUOTE:i think you may have a good point Int...but alas, since the sequence happens in the way it does, it cannot be counted as Discontinuity. Much the same way that Buenos Ares cannot be called a Lodge portal, since it is not mentioned outside of FWWM script
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I disagree. The scripts are valuable in our interpretations of the stories.
From the FWWM script, convenience store scene:
First Woodsman: We have descended from pure air.
Man from Another place: Going up and down. Intercourse between the two worlds.
The portal is simply the pure air that the woodsman speaks of.
In FWWM, the scene at the Philadelphia FBI office opens with a shot of the Liberty Bell, an appropriate introduction to Agent Jeffries’ liberation from the other world.
His emergence from an elevator symbolizes his descent, from Buenos Aires, a city whose name translates to “Good Air”
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| 30. Saturday, May 15, 2010 10:41 AM |
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electricity has something to do with the philip jefferies situation, obviously. one idea i read is that electricity is a way of travel for some. which could explain how he didn't pass the front desk, he came through the power lines directly into the elevator (as cooper dreamed) and into the office. then as he 'leaves' or, by the sound of it, is pulled out of that plane, and you see the power lines and hear the word electricity over the screams of philip jefferies.
but what the FUCK does it have to do with the black lodge?.. ALSO he was pointing at dale as he said 'who do you think this is there?!'
the owls are not what they seem
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| 31. Monday, August 15, 2011 12:46 PM |
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It was a higher power than either of them,wasn`t it... Earle laughing like a maniac and Cooper rabbitting on about it being imperative that they got in first(before him) but in the end it was a higher power than either of them,wasn`t it... and still is,i`m sure..... Cooper though at least `out-souled` Earle,didn`t he.....
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| 32. Monday, August 15, 2011 5:25 PM |
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| QUOTE: I've had a theory about Windom since 1992 and here it is - We have never seen the real Windom Earle - that was his doppleganger from the Black Lodge we always saw. Windom found the Lodge in 1967 when he was sent there to investigate project bluebook. He got trapped there (like Coop did at the end of the series). His doppleganger was released (with BOB inhabiting him) who then went on to kill Caroline, Earle's wife. And stab Cooper. That's how BOB knew about it when questioned by Coop and Truman in the jail cell. He was then confined to an insane asylum from which he escaped in 1991. The 25 years was almost up at this point, so he had to return to the Black Lodge but he's forgotten where it is. He goes to Twin Peaks - he remembers that much. Then he finally finds it, enters it with Annie and you know the rest. That's why Cooper is the only one there who speaks normally - even Earl has that slurred type of speech (because he's a doppleganger, not the real Windom). Windon Earl was Dale Cooper's partner. Not evil at all. He was nothing like the evil doppleganger we saw in the show. Keep in mind he sopke normally outside the Lodge because nobody speaks that backwards slurred speech outside the lodge. |
I very much agree with you on Windom Earle. How else would BOB have been able to possess Coop indirectly, through -- supposedly -- stealing Windom's soul as punishment for his audacity? It seems to me he was taking advantage of Coop's relationship with Earle, and Coop's willingness to give Earle his soul for Annie's (maybe BOB thought he might not make the same transaction with him? Maybe he just knew that Coop would give him no trouble... standing by and watching while BOB supposedly stole the criminal's soul?) It does seem like a bit of cunning on BOB's part (something he doesn't have much of) but maybe he was able to tap into some of Earle's genius while possessing him?
The Queen of Beans "Is this real... or some strange and twisted dream?" - Jerry Horne
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| 33. Monday, August 15, 2011 8:34 PM |
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"Earle punched above his weigh£ "this all has to do with `karma` and `Universal Law` "Earle was a Crackpot,wasn`t he that actually thought he could bag `Coopers soul` but `Dale Cooper` had more in the tank and in reserve than `Windom` reckoned on... rthe big wally....
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| 34. Thursday, August 18, 2011 2:59 AM |
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Agent Cooper had more `in the tank` than Earle and when it came down to it...Cooper knew he did....that was why he said "Yes,go ahead" Earle was stupid enough to `take the bait` at that point `Universal law` kicked in and Earle fell down a black hole... because he`d punched above his weight...
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