Have you searched on Youtube. You will find TM stuff like crazy( you will need to meditate before this proceeding procedes), so try to locate the needed interview with some clue in the header for it.

Or, come on man!  think, for crissakes, what;s with you " I can't remember"? sheesh.

So, i think yeah evil won a battle in TP, but the good/evil victor? hum... the war is still not over as we leave TP-- Maybe in season three we will find out for sure. Does the place become alive with the Bookhouse crew, a new FBI investgator , Hawk steps up. The posessed Dale is neutalized by Dr. Jacoby ? 

This Blue Rose case is still 'open'.

I don't think we ever "will" find out, since there won't be any season three. For now, evil had won, and I think that even if the series continued, there wouldn't be a Hollywood happy end with main characters alive, bad guys gone and future promising. If Lynch decided never to return to TP, it means he liked it more that way. Unfinished and non-optimistic. Case's still open, yeah.

Remember that in FWWM, even the BOB/MIKE conflict is resolved, and the demons are free to kill together again. This tells something about Lynch's approach.

No, but it sounds like a standard Lynch response to the topic. lol. He is an expert at blocking/frustrating journalists. He doesn't even want us fans to hear commentaries or see deleted scenes.

Yes, his answer isn't a lie, persay - Kyle wouldn't do FWWM, who cares why, and Desmond had to be created while keeping the script essentially the same. When you compare the original script (you know, the one where Cooper has sex with Laura Palmer in her dream), you can tell FWWM as we know it was kind of an Expressionist version of what could have been. Like how MD turned out.

I agree that it might be reaching to call anything in a Lynch film a literal dream. Sure, we see Diane's sheets in the beginning and the cowboy says "time to wake up," and we see Fred on death row and then shudder like he's being electrocuted. It's too pedestrian of an explanation for someone fascinated by "pure consciousness" and the Unified Field and space/time quantum mechanics.

David Lynch has said his favorite movie is the Wizard of Oz, and even when Dorothy wakes up, it's ambiguous. Was she dreaming? Or did she penetrate a parallel universe?

When it comes down to it, FWWM, MD and LH are movies are pure creative expressionistic escapism that allow multiple interpretations and are more about creating a mood. Sometimes the best way to do this is switching bodies/names and jumping the tracks of a story's reality with no reason behind it other than movie magic makes it possible.

Does is matter who plays the investigating detective on the Teresa Banks case or what his name is? No. The anxiety of the mystery takes precedent.

To bring it full circle, all that matter in the TP finale and FWWM is that BOB will always slip out through the cracks.

We all face our Bobs, black lodges, demons and troubles in some way, shape or form in our corporeal world, so it can only help if we confront these matters with love and perfect courage. 

Well, Cooper did become the monster in the end didn't he - became one with Bob?  Cooper gazed at himself in the mirror and Bob gazed back. 

In the film No Country for Old Men, Sheriff Ed Tom Bell contemplates his role in pursuing the evolved and seemingly unstoppable and relentless evil that is Anton Chigurh.  [SPOILER] Bell acknowlegdes that his pursuit would mean his further immersion into the darkness where this evil resides. ("...and then I woke up"). He retired from law enforcement having not confronted Chigurh, but instead saved himself 

Chigurh meets his greatest opponent at the film's conclusion, when Carla Jean Moss confronts him with fearlessness.  Following this confrontation, the universe responds to the good one's fearlessness, turning in the favor of good as Shighur is severely injured in a vehicle collision.  

Like Bob in TP, Chigurh represents the evil that men do, and both stories portray the innefectiveness of fighting fire with fire.           

Chigurh survived, even though he was injured. Evil can be repelled for some time, but never defeated.

in the context of no country for old men, i beg to differ. notice how after both moss and chigurh used money to get them out of trouble. money(illegal money) is their passport to situations they might otherwise not have access to. if we assume chigurh=bad and moss=good, both sides use the same technique to stay alive(a side note: in this respect it is similar to eyes wide just, as dr. Bill throws money left and right in order to get what he needs)
in no country... moss may die, chigurh may disappear but broken,(tho the book does go farther with him, he doesnt just disappear after the car accident), and ed tom may have lost his faith and belief in himself as a good man, but to bring me to my point, none of them can escape what we call fate, illustrated very well by the scene with carla jean at the end, namely that fate brought the coin there, just as it did chigurh, just as it did carla jean, and just as it did in the car accidentin chigurh's last scene. we are all gonna be defeated some day. chigurh's evil is not without its mach.
some may call it providence. but we must remember, providence doesnt always seem just and right in man's eyes. actually it seems like it rarely does. but that doesnt stop it from being providence.

and thats my philosophy lecture for the day.

Q; How is the fight against evil like a day time serial?

 A; It Never Ends!

 This thread has been jumping into my mind even when I'm thousands of miles away so I reply.  Maybe that will get it to leave me alone.

 I would say that evil did not win but rather it, like good, was cancelled.  FWWM was such a quantum leap of ambiguity for me it seems that it could be seen as providing support to either viewpoint.  As I am fairly pollyannish I choose to interpret it as supporting a 'good is moving forward' view.  I believe that this is the way the series was moving.

 The first blow to the evil was MIKE dearming himself.  I've come to the viewpoint that BOB was trying for something beyond simple possession.  I think he was trying to acquire his own familiar making it legal for him to start collecting garmonbozia and promoting him within the Lodge hierarchy.  When Laura choose death over compliance with his plans this was another blow to the evil of the Black Lodge.  While the end of the series shows evil in an ascendant position this fits with the typical dramatic narrative within the second story arc of TP.  Evil has to be ascendant and good must be seen as being on the ropes for its triumph at the end of the arc to have its maximum impact.

 So evil didn't triumph but rather the TP arc was broken and repaired , to a degree, with FWWM in a manner that was even more open to interpretation than the series. (Some feat!)

 Good only wins in stories, be they books, movies, video games or tales around the campfire, because those venues achieve static end states.  The problem with real life is that something else is always happening.  One evil is vanquished an another is discovered to take its place.  I have begin to wonder if it isn't the ubiquitous nature of stories in our society hasn't given us unrealistic expectations that our real lives will be like that.

 I would take issue with conflating fearlessness with perfect courage, not that it was explicitly stated anywhere.  I would maintain that the presence of fear is a requirement for the presence of courage.  As a personal example there is a foot bridge over some train tracks near my house.   I cross over it without any thought, at least when it is dry.  My father, who has a fear of heights, was unable to cross it when he was visiting a few years back.  He was unable to summon the requisite  courage to overcome his fear, a fear that was not present in my mind so I cross it without any particular courage at all.

 So Coopers ultimate failure in the Black Lodge is that he was confronted with his greatest fear, loosing for a second time the woman he loves through his own action/inaction.  His response comes not from his courage but from his fear.  He might or might not have taken the same action if he were coming from a place of courage but ultimately the action was not what mattered, what was behind that action did.

 I've heard the love as opposite of fear thesis before and am intrigued by it.  Consider these sequences;  Fear begets anger which begets hatred which begets evil.  Love begets joy which begets compassion which begets good.  If this follows than confronting evil from a position of fear/anger/hatred would lead to an increase of evil while confronting it from a position of love/joy/compassion would lead to its decrease.

 While confronting external evil is necessary confronting internal evil is the place I believe we must start from.  I've come over the last ten years to believe in the inverse-square law of social change, that is that your ability to effect said change falls off with the square of the distance.  So loving and having compassion for those you encounter in your everyday life has more effect, ultimately, than just about anything you can do.  For the love/compassion you show to/have for others to be real you must really feel them for yourself.  This having been said we are all part of the world as it is a part of us so we can't focus solely within.

 Confronting the evil within ourselves is difficult because to do so we have to admit it exists.  We have such a binary worldview in our society to admit that it exists within us is tantamount to saying that we are evil, after all you have to be one or the other right?  But large evils are often built out of smaller evils.  When I speak of the evils within us I'm not talking about GRK evils but rather the petty cruelties we visit upon others, often as way way of finding relief from those that have been visited upon us.

 This may seem like so much bullshit and if you think so I respect your right to disagree.  Consider though if Gary Ridgways mother had not treated him the way she apparently did perhaps the Green River Killer might never have existed and the world would have been, I think we can all agree, spared a major evil.

 Yours in love/joy/compassion, rb

"It's not so bad as long as you can keep the fear from your mind." - D. Cooper

"I must not fear. Fear is the mind killer." - P. Atreides

"Whoever can see through all fear will always be safe" - L. tzu

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i like you more every time you put up a new post.