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| 1. Sunday, December 20, 2009 2:02 PM |
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Obviously Cooper has a cosmopolitan mish mash of ideas in his skull, one of which includes a Tibetan Buddhist slant... How much of this was informed by Lynch? By Frost? And how much is featured in the series, and what is its impact upon the show as a whole? Does it blend with or clash with the mythologies of the series?
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| 2. Sunday, December 20, 2009 2:55 PM |
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Theosophy incorporates a lot of Buddhist ideas that work with TP, like the bardo worlds of the Red Room and the reading of the Tibetan Book of the Dead when Leland dies.
Certain parts of TP mythology, like the Black/White Lodges,and the idea of Dugpas (Buddhists whose religion had detoriated in a time of spiritual poverty), are pulled from Buddhism, but the Dweller(s) of the Threshold is exclusively modern Theosophy, the 1842 text, Zanoni.
Mark Frost utilizes Theosophy as a plot point in his novel The List of 7 (1993) and even puts Madam Blavatsky, its founder, in it.
So it is a better bet that it is Theosophy and not Buddhism that Twin Peaks is about. Coop is interested in Tibet, the writers were using the Theosophy angle (Hawk's "people" are Theosophists.) If Coop had studied more Romantic Occult, he may have been better prepared for his journey!
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| 3. Monday, December 21, 2009 6:39 AM |
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| QUOTE:Theosophy incorporates a lot of Buddhist ideas that work with TP, like the bardo worlds of the Red Room and the reading of the Tibetan Book of the Dead when Leland dies. Certain parts of TP mythology, like the Black/White Lodges,and the idea of Dugpas (Buddhists whose religion had detoriated in a time of spiritual poverty), are pulled from Buddhism, but the Dweller(s) of the Threshold is exclusively modern Theosophy, the 1842 text, Zanoni. Mark Frost utilizes Theosophy as a plot point in his novel The List of 7 (1993) and even puts Madam Blavatsky, its founder, in it. So it is a better bet that it is Theosophy and not Buddhism that Twin Peaks is about. Coop is interested in Tibet, the writers were using the Theosophy angle (Hawk's "people" are Theosophists.) If Coop had studied more Romantic Occult, he may have been better prepared for his journey! |
List of Seven is a really great book, btw... i don't think i can say i understand theosophy any better now, but still a really amazing work of fiction. i thought frost was more the practical half of the frost/lynch collaboration, but after reading List of Seven i realized that he contributed just as much to the "mood" of TP as lynch did.
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| 4. Monday, December 21, 2009 12:33 PM |
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Interesting, now i have to read up on Theosophy !
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| 5. Tuesday, December 22, 2009 7:57 AM |
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theosophy, good point 12!
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| 6. Tuesday, December 22, 2009 11:43 PM |
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i pretty much agree with angel that there is more of a 'mystery school' or occultish feel to the show than traditional buddhist spiritually, altho buddism is mentioned more than once in connection with cooper's investigative methods. while youre all checking out theosophy, try looking up anthroposophy, particularly the books of rudolf steiner, who's writings and teachings are the basics of the philosophy. an uncle of mine teaches at rudolf steiner college in california, and has written a handful of books, covering anthroposophy, creativity, and even weather studies. its all quite interesting for those who dont feel themselves a part of the major monotheistic religions, and is one of the few successful attempts i know of to fuse eastern and western spiritually without calling attention to itself. also, in regard to "List of Seven," there is also the philosophy of g.i. gurdjieff, in which the "law of seven" was a basic tenant(seven being the number of notes in a western musical scale for instance), and he incorporated music, dance, prostrations and many other things a bit off topic for this thread into his writings. i wouldnt doubt frost has done at least a little studing of g.i. gurdjieff, or, as its known, the forth way. the other major authoratative voice of the fourth way is the writings of p.d. ouspensky. his early work is written very much from the perspective of student or disciple of gurdjieff, but his later works show the developments he enacted or helped enact, and are more scholarly in perspective, not so much the awe-struck follower of his first couple of books. worth checking out if your in the mood and in the right place. i happen to live close to wheaton, IL. which is the theosopy captial for the international society of its schools and centers, so i guess i have a privilage in available reading, tho much can be ordered online too.
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| 7. Friday, December 25, 2009 1:41 PM |
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Perhaps "The Devil's Guard" by Talbot Mundy can be useful on this topic.
There are the Black/White Lodges and dugpas in this book. *Update* It is here http://gutenberg.net.au/ebooks03/0300661.txt 
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| 8. Saturday, December 26, 2009 1:10 PM |
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Thank you Dynarock for the reference and link to The Devil's Guard. I'm anxious to read it. Thanks to all contributors of this thread. I'm always intrigued with the topic of TP influences, as discovering them will help us solve the puzzles.
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