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1. Tuesday, November 17, 2009 5:24 PM
FanFrom AnotherPlace Few questions that deal with FWWM.


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These have probably been answered on here before but the search function is messing up for me.

 

1. Is the Fat Trout trailer park an entrance to the lodge?  Carl Rodd reacts strangely when he see's the old lady (forgive me, I can't remember the quote).  Agent Desmonds disappearance. And the electricity post that when seen is accompanied by Mike's sound.

 

2. The Chalfont/Tremond's grandson?  Lelend as a kid?

 well, found this link which addresses this one.

http://www.2000revue.com/community/topic.cfm?topicid=3982

 

3. Donna going with Laura to the pink room and seeing how she acted and saw her with Jaques.  Wouldn't that have been helpful info during the series?

 

 


   
 
2. Tuesday, November 17, 2009 5:57 PM
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How would that have been helpful info? So Laura was kissing a bunch of guys and getting drunk, but so was Donna, not to mention the fact that Donna was drunk and didn't remember much ("How did I get home last night?"). And she wouldn't want to defame her deceased best friend, especially if it would bring herself down as well.


 
3. Tuesday, November 17, 2009 5:40 PM
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Her best friend was murdered, you would think telling the cops about her other side would lead to suspects earlier.

 

They wouldn't have to make public that Donna gave them the info or drag her down into it.

 

Donna saw Laura with Jaques, figured she would have mentioned it at some point.

 

But I do see your point in her being pretty drunk.


   
 
4. Tuesday, November 17, 2009 5:55 PM
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and it's retro-active storytelling.  It's not like FWWM was mapped out as backstory when the series was crafted.  It was developed for dramatic effect years later.  So you just chalk it up to poetic license.

 
5. Tuesday, November 17, 2009 5:58 PM
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QUOTE:and it's retro-active storytelling.  It's not like FWWM was mapped out as backstory when the series was crafted.  It was developed for dramatic effect years later.  So you just chalk it up to poetic license.

 This too. Still makes for a great prequel and epilogue to the TP saga, I must say!


 
6. Tuesday, November 17, 2009 5:58 PM
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QUOTE:and it's retro-active storytelling.  It's not like FWWM was mapped out as backstory when the series was crafted.  It was developed for dramatic effect years later.  So you just chalk it up to poetic license.


 Right, I did give that some thought which would just give the story a plothole.


   
 
7. Tuesday, November 17, 2009 6:20 PM
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Maybe Moira Kelly forgot to tell Lara Flynn Boyle.

 
8. Tuesday, November 17, 2009 7:46 PM
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QUOTE:Maybe Moira Kelly forgot to tell Lara Flynn Boyle.

 ^Cooper thumbs-up for you.

 


 
9. Tuesday, November 17, 2009 9:04 PM
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She didn't tell about the Pink Room because yeah, she didn't remember, or because of the same reason Jacoby didn't mention the red Corvette man but decided to follow him himself instead, "my own personal investigation" bullshit... I think Donna says something like that they were the only ones who loved her and that they have to investigate, so she doesn't tell about the tapes, Jacoby's coconut, Harold or the secret diary...

 
10. Tuesday, November 17, 2009 9:17 PM
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QUOTE:

These have probably been answered on here before but the search function is messing up for me.

 

1. Is the Fat Trout trailer park an entrance to the lodge?  Carl Rodd reacts strangely when he see's the old lady (forgive me, I can't remember the quote).  Agent Desmonds disappearance. And the electricity post that when seen is accompanied by Mike's sound.

 

 

 


 

There is no search function, but that would explain it messing up for you. I use Google (key words + twinpeaksgazette works every time)

Here is more on the strange goings on @ Fat Trout

http://www.2000revue.com/community/topic.cfm?topicid=3026&page=1

http://tbbaa.2000revue.com/community/topic.cfm?topicid=5011

 
11. Sunday, November 22, 2009 12:20 AM
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QUOTE:

These have probably been answered on here before but the search function is messing up for me.

 

1. Is the Fat Trout trailer park an entrance to the lodge?  Carl Rodd reacts strangely when he see's the old lady (forgive me, I can't remember the quote).  Agent Desmonds disappearance. And the electricity post that when seen is accompanied by Mike's sound.

the chalfonts lived there, two chalfonts to be exact, and with the ring on a mound of dirt undernenth the trailer, it is at least implied that magik/blacklodger stuff went on there. maybe that was the owl ring teresa wore. electricity is used frequently when a lodge spirit is close or involved.
deputy cliff lived in the park too, who later was to be shot by bobby and giggling laura in FWWM.

as Audrey said, the changing of backstory through the tv seris and film
was unavoidable. same location, different universes. twin peaks the show is not twin peaks:fire walk with me. and remember, lynch wrote or co-wrote only a handful of scripts, directed a handful of episodes (as he was starting 'wild at heart' at the time(but he stayed on as producer of TP)). there were so many other talented people writing and directing, especially the man behind the throne, mark frost. when lynch and frost were working together, they made flawless TV until about either episode 17 or 18, tho the mid-period TP show is better than what else was on TV. the time when lynch and frost kinda took a leave in the second season to work on lynchs wild at heart and frost's novel. dont get me wrong i love engels and dunham et. al. but there was a dramatic change of tone to the series until ep 24 or 25, when lynch and frost came bake to an extent (and then give Tv veiwers of ep.29, possibly the strangest disturbing and abstracted hour of television. the great final steach of episodes at the end are almost as good at the first season. and then he goes right into fire walk with me. it was hated at the time, but now revered as another great piece of film. just wild at heart.

2. The Chalfont/Tremond's grandson?  Lelend as a kid?

 well, found this link which addresses this one.

http://www.2000revue.com/community/topic.cfm?topicid=3982

yeah the theories are that he is either leland(or a manifestation of him, possible sexually), the magician of the series and of the 'fire walk with me" poem, or younger angent jefferies, as in his recolllecting of his expierience in the black lodge(again these scenes have pleanty of power cable superimposed

3. Donna going with Laura to the pink room and seeing how she acted and saw her with Jaques.  Wouldn't that have been helpful info during the series?

again, as audrey said, FWWM is a prequal. not in the traditional sense. sure
that would have moved/changed the plot around a bit, but this is (no offence) lazy criticism. films have to exist by their own rules. and from these each of our perspectives make it and form them. our world, and it is so so pointless to exists in nostagilia, even the nostagilia of now line of thinking. but i digress, FWWW was almost 4 years after the pilot. the red room scene did not exist as an idea when the pilot was written and shot. this show was obiviously open to changing and did so better, i think, than almost any television show made.


 

 
12. Wednesday, November 18, 2009 8:42 AM
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the great final steach of episodes at the end

That sentence is the only thing I take umbridge with.  Aside from the finale, I think it's pretty abysmal.

 
13. Wednesday, November 18, 2009 3:19 PM
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QUOTE:
QUOTE:

These have probably been answered on here before but the search function is messing up for me.

 

1. Is the Fat Trout trailer park an entrance to the lodge?  Carl Rodd reacts strangely when he see's the old lady (forgive me, I can't remember the quote).  Agent Desmonds disappearance. And the electricity post that when seen is accompanied by Mike's sound.

 

 

 


  There is no search function, but that would explain it messing up for you. I use Google (key words + twinpeaksgazette works every time) Here is more on the strange goings on @ Fat Trout http://www.2000revue.com/community/topic.cfm?topicid=3026&page=1 http://tbbaa.2000revue.com/community/topic.cfm?topicid=5011

 

I was talking about the search option located next to the home option .... which I think the search option is just a google search.
 


   
 
14. Wednesday, November 18, 2009 3:57 PM
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I have a more realistic interpretation. Carl has a past with authorities, and when they asked the lady about Teresa Banks, he uttered that line because he speculated that there was going to be an interrogation, and he wanted no part in it.


 
15. Sunday, November 22, 2009 12:21 AM
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aww, come on! ep.25 was great. cooper and cole both getting a little counter esperanto the fine ladies of the double RR, and harry's stomach startes to settle. tho i agee the petroglyph at end was a bit hokey. also, but much much more evil, Jack Justice, the worst villian to step on the land of twin peaks, has arrived.

ep 27 is pretty damn good too!

 
16. Wednesday, November 18, 2009 5:22 PM
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Oh, I'm a harsh critic, aren't I? 

Just in comparing it to the flawless first season.  For me the problem is when it gets bogged down in explaining the mysterious events and makes the characters actively try to solve it.  The brilliance of the Laura Palmer death was how it made the characters reflective of themselves. 

I think there's some fun writing here and it's on par with a quirky Northern Exposure episode or the soon to come Picket Fences.  But it's definitely lost its allure, and darkness. 

At the diner scene, I was screaming a big Fuck You to Cooper with this Annie character- so it was impossible for me to enjoy the writing.  (this was long before the internet so we didn't know any rumors of the politics going on behind the scenes).  The Wheeler and Annie characters had me confused because I didn't know why we needed two of them to interupt the Cooper/Audrey arc. 

Windom Earle's tactics seem to change every week -from chess to playing cards to dressing up as random community theater characters.  Donna's father mystery was obvious from the get go and a big who cares. 

And Audrey looks like a giant bobble head. 

 
17. Thursday, November 19, 2009 10:30 AM
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its still one sexy bobblehead

 
18. Thursday, November 19, 2009 6:53 PM
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I think there's some fun writing here and it's on par with a quirky Northern Exposure episode or the soon to come Picket Fences.  But it's definitely lost its allure, and darkness. 


From the Leland's-wake episode onward, Twin Peaks does have an awful lot of Dr Capra in it.


 

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