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1. Monday, September 21, 2009 5:29 AM
ibrimus The OWL CAVE RING File


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Dear friends,

As Twin Peaks Gazette is one of the most authoritative resources on TP-theme I decided that it also should contain the most complete collection of evidences about so-called "Owl Cave Ring" (OCR) - to my mind it's one of the most significant TP-symbols.

There are a lot of discussions of OCR as a symbol... But I've created this topic first of all to speak about REAL - i.e. ORIGINAL - OCR or its TRUE COPIES but only if they're of high quality, well-done and close to the original OCR.

Almost 20 years passed and hundreds of TP-props - as originals, so true-copies - have been sold through real auctions, speacial sites etc. It's quite easy to find at least SOME info concerning different props - from coffee cups and Dale's voice-recorder to Dale's car and furniture from Truman's cabinet...

But there is still NOTHING concerning the OCR - haven't You mentioned that??? NO-THING!!! I'd like to rectify this omission - at least to try: I suppose it'd be interesting for real TP-admirers!

So, here are the questions for discussion:

  • Have You ever heard (or may be read) ANYTHING about the original OCR fortune??? How the OCR appeared in the film?? What happened with the OCR after the film???
  • May be some of You've noticed the OCR suddenly at some exhibition, TP-Fest or auction??
    - Have You ever heard about particular "technical" details of the original OCR: what're the exact metal and exact gemstone of the OCR?? What's the OCR's exact weight?? What's the proper shape of the "owl-symbol"?? etc.
  • If You haven't ever seen the original OCR and haven't heard ANY particular details on it - may be You've seen or at least heard about its (OCR's) quality and really well-done true-copies close to original OCR?? If so - what was Your first impression: "Wow, it's great! It's just like the real OCR from Mikes' right hand!!!" or "Heh, it's just something self-made and looks quite poor..."???
  • finally, may be You even have heard about particular persons who own original OCR or at least OCR's true-copies??

So, if You have what to say on questions above - please be so kind to share Your thoughts!!!

 

 

 

    

 
2. Tuesday, September 29, 2009 7:20 AM
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Boy would I LOVE to have an owl cave ring - ESPECIALLY if, after putting it on my finger, I'm transported to the Black Lodge!!!!!!!!!!!

 
3. Tuesday, September 29, 2009 7:22 AM
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OK, Nefud needs to produce some pix for us of his custom-made owl cave ring. It's pretty effing sweet.


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4. Tuesday, September 29, 2009 11:37 PM
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Pamela Gidley asked Lynch for the ring after FWWM wrapped, but he wouldn't give it up. He either kept it, destroyed it (yes, many props were destroyed/discarded by the man himself) or gave it to someone else that worked on, or was close to, the film.

If I was in the art department of FWWM and made this, I would definitely keep it!

 
5. Sunday, April 11, 2010 7:00 PM
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first post here, so I'll make it worth while.

I've been thinking of making this ring for some time now, so I thought I may as well share what I've been able to estimate from film stills, etc.

The stone looks like a rough cut opaque nephrite/jade disc approx 12mm in diameter with the owl cave symbol engraved 7mm tall and possibly filled with black epoxy in to create the black on green look.  The ring itself is a typical gents form with a 2mm thick shank and is 5mm at the setting. The metal is impossible to tell, but is probably a pale gold such as 14k or something similarly coloured. At these measurements I'd say the original ring size was ~8 1/2, but it is difficult to tell. From what I saw in the film, there was only one ring made (the over cut in the bottom of the engraving and the inclusions in the stone are identical in all scenes that show the ring) but I may be mistaken.

 
6. Sunday, April 11, 2010 8:19 PM
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granite stone , is jade stone a granite? Nefud where are ya? I remember  Nefud had that special ring made. what stone? please post that ring, cause it's cool!

 
7. Sunday, April 11, 2010 11:17 PM
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It looked like a dark-green shade of Jade to me, I just bought myself a dark Jade necklace from china town last week and was reminded of the owl ring.



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8. Monday, April 12, 2010 12:03 AM
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I love Jade color! there's a ring I want from my sis I wanted for sooo long! I am sure it's a budda man with a snake gold around the middle  and a jade stone. very cool lookin ring, I always begged her for that one!!! she will let me wear it, But I want it sooo bad!!!!

 
9. Monday, April 12, 2010 1:22 AM
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I didn't used to have a favorite jewel/gemstone but when I found my jade necklace at the jewelery store in China Town I knew that I was a jade person.



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10. Saturday, April 17, 2010 7:28 AM
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QUOTE:granite stone , is jade stone a granite? Nefud where are ya? I remember  Nefud had that special ring made. what stone? please post that ring, cause it's cool!


I believe it is emerald you are looking for.  More specifically, chiseled from the Emerald Tablet of Hermes.  "This is a Formica table, green is its color"..."With this ring I thee wed"


 
11. Friday, April 16, 2010 11:31 PM
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Thank you Intuition :)

 
12. Sunday, April 18, 2010 1:53 PM
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I am not one of those people who try to have exactly the same thing, but like to put my own artistic style in things, I recommend that you take a look at this web page and decide for yourself which stone it really was.

http://www.bernardine.com/gemstones/green.htm

I hope that if you make the ring (which I have experience in) is that you choose whatever stone you think is the best for you. No one will never be able to be able to create an exact replica, not even the original artist. Also, by putting your own stylistic idea into it, you in fact become a part of it (whatever that might mean to you) instead of just being a follower.

Good art is as only good as its own artist(s).

 
13. Monday, November 8, 2010 9:39 AM
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QUOTE:


I believe it is emerald you are looking for.  More specifically, chiseled from the Emerald Tablet of Hermes.  "This is a Formica table, green is its color"..."With this ring I thee wed"


I must have missed this back when it was posted. Very nice Intuition. I've been thinking a lot about Twin Peaks stuff again lately, among other things the formica table. My latest thoughts on this topic are that the table itself isn't really that important. What's important is what's on it, namely Garmonbozia. During the Lodge meeting, the MFAP actually draws a fairly simple connection:

Garmonbozia --> this table [with Garmonbozia on it] is green --> with this [green] ring I thee wed

In other words, the green ring is connected to the gathering of Garmonbozia through the table. With the Emerald Tablet in mind, however, we may look upon the MFAP's activities as some form of transmutation. The formica table may even literally be the place where suffering is transmuted to Garmonbozia.


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14. Thursday, November 18, 2010 9:48 AM
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So what you mean is that the green from the ring is made from the formica table? (A piece from the table).

 
15. Thursday, November 18, 2010 4:21 PM
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Yes, something like that. Otherwise I see no point in the MFAP mentioning that the table is green.


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16. Thursday, November 18, 2010 7:59 PM
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QUOTE:So what you mean is that the green from the ring is made from the formica table? (A piece from the table).


No, made from the Emerald Tablet that the green formica table perhaps alludes to. 

 
17. Thursday, November 18, 2010 9:04 PM
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I just wondered why there is a small round piece missing from the table top, wich can be seen during the scene with David Bowie. Maybe coinsidence , but it's strange that the table is intact except for the little round missing piece wich seems to be cut out.

 
18. Thursday, November 18, 2010 9:45 PM
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QUOTE:I just wondered why there is a small round piece missing from the table top, wich can be seen during the scene with David Bowie. Maybe coinsidence , but it's strange that the table is intact except for the little round missing piece wich seems to be cut out.

 
Interesting, Judy.  Can you post a screenshot of this scene?

 
19. Wednesday, November 24, 2010 12:16 AM
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20. Friday, November 19, 2010 5:34 AM
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Ooh, that's very nice :)


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21. Tuesday, November 23, 2010 8:37 AM
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i think him describing the table is just a sign that he is a spirit from another place in our realm. i think the convienence store is literal. i imagine the line is there to show how alien these spirits are to us. just as other animals have different sensory perceptions of colours, i think the spirits would not neccessarily see the world as we do. it's almost as if the MFAP is either explaining to the other occupants in the room what they are seeing, or saying it to himself as he works it out. he's a stranger in our dimension, but seems to be knowledgable of it to an extent, yet still he has the air of a tourist seeing things he had only previously read about.

 
22. Wednesday, November 24, 2010 7:32 PM
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QUOTE:i think him describing the table is just a sign that he is a spirit from another place in our realm. i think the convienence store is literal. i imagine the line is there to show how alien these spirits are to us. just as other animals have different sensory perceptions of colours, i think the spirits would not neccessarily see the world as we do. it's almost as if the MFAP is either explaining to the other occupants in the room what they are seeing, or saying it to himself as he works it out. he's a stranger in our dimension, but seems to be knowledgable of it to an extent, yet still he has the air of a tourist seeing things he had only previously read about.


I agree with what you say about them existing in our realm, and I believe the script from this scene in FWWM supports your idea.  I shared a similar idea.  See : http://www.2000revue.com/community/topic.cfm?topicid=3989&page=2

 

 

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