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1. Monday, August 3, 2009 1:44 AM
wizardofxenia Do you think Leo was a changed man by the end?


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I mean, he did save the Major after all.  Leo commited the most serious of felonies but I can't help but feel his personality had changed during his time with Earle.


There was a fiish..iinn the percolatrr!

 
2. Sunday, August 2, 2009 3:53 PM
Douglas Ferns RE: Do you think Leo was a changed man by the end?


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Those spiders fucked up his face big time.


 
3. Sunday, August 2, 2009 4:29 PM
one suave folk RE: Do you think Leo was a changed man by the end?


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By the end, his undies likely needed to be "changed"!!!

 
4. Sunday, August 2, 2009 5:05 PM
Rami Airola RE: Do you think Leo was a changed man by the end?


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I believe so. I recall we had a discussion about this here a few years ago and while someone argued that Leo didn't really change and that he has always been an asshole and always will be, I must say that I still believe that he really changed his thoughts and his ways.

One of the themes of Twin Peaks was that every single human being has the ability to be both good and bad. The kindest persons can do heinous crimes and the most horrible criminals can be better persons.

Shelly said that Leo used to be nice but after they got married he started to abuse her. While Leo really might've been someone who knowlingly uses the bond of marriage selfishly to his own good I think he really did feel love for Shelly at some point. He had a bad temper and his possible oversexuality combined with drug use and the stress that comes from having to worry about money and cops and possible backstabbers in the drug business took its toll and he didn't know any better way to deal with those feelings.

I mean, we all know how it's easy to get irritated and angry from the smallest things. I know that when I'm writing some long text and someone interrupts me I become somewhat irritated and I even might raise my voice a bit. And I don't really get angry almost ever. It's just in those occasions when I go even near to losing my temper (and even then I don't lose it but I certainly feel that feeling being out there). So, thinking about Leo who already has some issues with his temper and he has far bigger things at stake than just a long text to be written, I think that boiling irritation and anger sooner or later explodes.

What Leo needed for him to understand things from another perspective was that he had to become somewhat retarded and he had to feel the feeling of being abused by someone. For the first time in his life he felt powerless and he felt what it feels like to be abused by someone like him. And someone even worse than him. Leo was someone who didn't have a problem to kill someone but it was mostly all about a crime of passion. Windom, on the other hand, was capable of killing basically anyone just for the heck of it.

Now, some could say that he only felt that it was only his priviledge to punish his own wife but then again he was somewhat retarded at that point and when he said "love...shelly" I think he really meant it. I think at that condition he wouldn't say things like that without any meaning to it.

 

(I hope all this don't feel too incoherent. It's about 3:05 am right now and I'm pretty tired :) )

 
5. Sunday, August 2, 2009 6:27 PM
Audrey Horne RE: Do you think Leo was a changed man by the end?


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of course he was -or enough to give them wiggle room for his character in a third season, or else there'd be nothing to do with him.

 
6. Monday, August 3, 2009 12:33 AM
Addison DeWitt RE: Do you think Leo was a changed man by the end?


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Leo was changed in that he was a little bit retarded.  He definitely would have survived the spiders... probably Major Briggs would have led Hawk and Andy up to the cabin in the woods and freed him.  Then Leo would have been arrested, transferred to a mental clinic to be rehabilitated for a few episodes and then given a menial job probably at the Double R as a bus boy, where he'd be in close contact with Shelley every day.  I think it would have been an interesting story to see him and Shelley get back together...  

 

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