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> So did Lynch and Frost have the idea of the Lodges from the beginning...
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| 1. Friday, July 31, 2009 11:19 AM |
| wizardofxenia |
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...or did they come up with it later?
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| 2. Friday, July 31, 2009 11:32 AM |
| Audrey Horne |
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later... much later.
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| 3. Friday, July 31, 2009 11:47 AM |
| wizardofxenia |
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Ah, so they had no idea that the red room in episode 2 would end up as the black lodge. Interesting. But they did have Windom Earle in their heads, as he features a little bit early in season 2.
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| 4. Friday, July 31, 2009 11:47 AM |
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Ah, so they had no idea that the red room in episode 2 would end up as the black lodge. Interesting. But they did have Windom Earle in their heads, as he features a little bit early in season 2.
There was a fiish..iinn the percolatrr!
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| 5. Friday, July 31, 2009 5:41 PM |
| Audrey Horne |
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season two is not the beginning though- it's like a year and a half since the pilot was filmed. Yeah, the lodge might have been thought of when arcing the beginning and end of the second season and the inclusion of Windom Earle. But it wasn't intended to be the Red Room; it was intended to be a dark version of the Great Northern. This is mostly Frost outlining the project, not sure what Lynch's input was -maybe only, "Okie dokie!" But the second season does kick off with Cooper talking about facing fear, "keeping it from my mind," and the juxtaposition of missing Audrey and Windom Earle escaping in the second episode- most likely that it was intended to be the final episode for the season. But in the beginning no. I think there would have been foreshadowing. Earle was probably thought up in summer 1990, and the Lodges forming soon after that.
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| 6. Saturday, August 1, 2009 11:56 AM |
| Ivan Sputnik |
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I suspect the lodge theme came out of the scrambling they had to do when the network forced them to resolve the Laura Palmer plot. Given that they had to come up with something, I think it was a good move. It didn't contradict what had already been established (Bob, the red room, etc.), but put it in a context that was interesting, at least to me. It has led to endless theorizing, which has been one thing that has kept interest in the series alive.
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| 7. Saturday, August 1, 2009 3:54 PM |
| Rami Airola |
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Making some wild guesses I assume the thought process went somewhat like this:
They wanted to do a story about a town where a young girl was found murdered. They knew the killer was her father. Also, they had this idea that the electric powerlines were causing people to be eccentric and to do weird things. I think Mark Frost once said something like that in an interview. Now, I don't know if this was thought before or after the filming of the pilot. There sure was some happenings with electricity in the pilot but I recall that the flashing light in the hospital wasn't intentional as the lamp just happened to be faulty. Maybe they got the electricity thing from that accident. Anyways, the powerline thing was probably the first thought to come close to a supernatural plot. As everyone knows, a series of odd events led to the birth of Bob during the filming of the pilot. They didn't yet know what was the deal with him but at some point during the making of the first season or just before writing some plot lines to the second season it was thought up that Leland was Bob and Bob was Leland. Then there was going to be a giant appearing in Cooper's room. I guess at that point they finally knew there really was a supernatural otherworld and electricity (power lines, lightnings etc.) had something to do with it. I think it was later during the making of the second season when they finally had thought what kind of place that otherworld really is. And even then its "physical" form still wasn't clear as David Lynch had to "rewrite" most of the script for the Black Lodge stuff in the final episode. Anyways, I think they didn't come up with the otherworld stuff until the end of the first season and after it was thought up it still grew during the making of the second season. But nevertheless the things that led to creating the otherworld had happened during the making of the pilot and the first season. But then again, I might be completely wrong with this :)
Maybe they really had the idea of electricity having some sort of an effect to humans right from the beginning. After all, there is the fan in the pilot... there is the flashing light... Maybe the electricity was from the start the thing that Bob ended up to be, the thing that causes people to act in weird ways. Or maybe they had some sort of an idea about an otherworld where all the bad things come from and electricity was the thing that connected people to these powers.
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