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| 1. Friday, April 3, 2009 9:30 AM |
| coolspringsj |
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The proof is in the pudding. Go to any Lynch/TP message board and the TP section always has the most posts and views by far. Is it because it was longer and more accessible? Because it was on TV? Best characters? Mob Justice has obviously created many wonderful works, but why is Twin Peaks the one that gets the limelight and the largest fanbase?
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| 2. Friday, April 3, 2009 9:41 AM |
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I think you have answered the majority of your questions in your post, it was longer than most, people in lots of countries watched Twin Peaks on TV and the individual might have thought that TP was Lynchs best piece of work. Either that or they might not have seen anything else of Lynch's
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| 3. Friday, April 3, 2009 9:56 AM |
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I think for a lot of people (like me) TP is the "gateway drug" of the Mob Justice universe. When I first saw it, I had never seen anything like that before and I just wanted more. I'll always have a special place in my heart for TP because of that.
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| 4. Friday, April 3, 2009 12:14 PM |
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I don't know about people, but I will speak for myself. Although I think that other Lynch projects are more assured and better in every way, TP is his longest and most novelistic project. Thus, the impact is greater than any other individual project he has done. I say this with the knowledge that Lynch's contribution to TP can be confined to the Pilot, and eps 2, 8, 9. 14. 29.
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| 5. Friday, April 3, 2009 12:28 PM |
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It has the widest appeal and widest viewership of anything he's done.
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| 6. Friday, April 3, 2009 3:06 PM |
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im attracted to it because i saw it on its original airing, when i was but a wee lad of 10. TP will always be special to me for that, but i have to say im more interested in lynch's other work than his contributions to TP the series. FWWM is a whole different issue.
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| 7. Saturday, April 4, 2009 4:01 AM |
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| QUOTE:I think for a lot of people (like me) TP is the "gateway drug" of the Mob Justice universe. When I first saw it, I had never seen anything like that before and I just wanted more. I'll always have a special place in my heart for TP because of that. |
I am lost on this mention of 'mob justice' - I'm obviously missing something - what do you mean?
I don't think Twin Peaks is weaker than Lynch's feature films - his episodes are just as strong, if not moreso, than any of his cinema releases. One thing is that the setting and feeling of Twin Peaks must appeal to a lot of viewers. It had a warmth and mystery about it. FWWM didn't capture the same atmosphere as the series, mostly because it was filmed in late August and September during a sunny period. The mood of Twin Peaks should have been February/March, foggy, rainy, misty and damp....oh well. I think this atmosphere did appeal to viewers too in a home setting, as television viewing. The first season captures this atmosphere best, after that it was not sustained unfortunately but I think it was an essential part of its success.
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| 8. Saturday, April 4, 2009 6:57 AM |
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because it's the best thing he's done, probably
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| 9. Saturday, April 4, 2009 11:31 AM |
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I don't think it's the best thing he's done. His episodes are great, but you can't just watch them individually (unless you are already very familiar with the series). You have to take the series as a whole, and as a whole it isn't nearly as good as some of his films. I really don't know why TP is more popular, as it is not even that accessible to most viewers. Okay, it may not have excessive violence, or sex etc., but that doesn't make it any more "normal" than his other films.
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| 10. Saturday, April 4, 2009 12:28 PM |
| Nefud |
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| QUOTE: I don't think it's the best thing he's done. His episodes are great, but you can't just watch them individually (unless you are already very familiar with the series). You have to take the series as a whole, and as a whole it isn't nearly as good as some of his films. I really don't know why TP is more popular, as it is not even that accessible to most viewers. Okay, it may not have excessive violence, or sex etc., but that doesn't make it any more "normal" than his other films.
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its the thing he's done that gained the most popularity, therefore it's the best thing he's done. the free market has spoken! (im kidding)
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| 11. Saturday, April 4, 2009 1:57 PM |
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It is by and large considered the most groundbreaking thing he's done. Eraserhead was weird, but that had been done. Blue Velvet was racy, but that had been done. No one had done an absurd kitschy serial with a midget and a psychic detective before.
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| 12. Saturday, April 4, 2009 4:20 PM |
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I think it is because of many of the things already mentioned, more people watch television, ground breaking television etc... I also think because people can relate to it more than other David Lynch projects. Although the town was odd every town has odd people. I think a lot of people could relate to the sexual molestation things as well, because so many people are molested. It also had a "cool" appeal to it. A Rebel Without A Cause Appeal. I think all of us has met a girl sometime in our life who seems like and angel on the outside but has some dark secrets on the inside. I think those kinds of things are what made it popular as well. I know I enjoy Twin Peaks more than any of David Lynche's other projects. I like those too, I just like Twin Peaks more.
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| 13. Sunday, April 5, 2009 7:08 AM |
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| QUOTE: Eraserhead was weird, but that had been done. |
when had eraserhead been done? i'm ignorant on the history of film i guess, i can't think of anything like it but i'm sure there 85 little european just like it that i don't know about.
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| 14. Sunday, April 5, 2009 12:49 PM |
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No, weird, expressionistic things had been done in that medium. Eraserhead was an original thing.
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| 15. Sunday, April 5, 2009 1:50 PM |
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| QUOTE:No, weird, expressionistic things had been done in that medium. Eraserhead was an original thing. |
original but still had been done before? like it took previously used ideas and made them into something new? i'm not getting it.
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| 16. Sunday, April 5, 2009 2:10 PM |
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QUOTE:| QUOTE:No, weird, expressionistic things had been done in that medium. Eraserhead was an original thing. |
original but still had been done before? like it took previously used ideas and made them into something new? i'm not getting it. |
Yes, I'm saying everything is original but nothing is new. Twin Peaks did something new for the medium of TV.
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| 17. Sunday, April 5, 2009 7:47 PM |
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Twin Peaks had the hotter chicks... Ok, that was a joke (was it?). I don't know... Popularity? I guess it's not a matter of being the best thing he has ever done, but the thing that invites more to talk about it... Theories (like who's Judy), gossip (Coop vs. Audrey vs. LFB), wishful thinking (season 3 NOW!) and yes, hot chicks and dudes... No other Lynch project has all that...
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| 18. Sunday, April 5, 2009 9:03 PM |
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Before Twin Peaks, most people who went to see a Lynch movie, kinda knew what they were getting into. His movies drew fans of his previous features or people who heard about him, and were curious. Then Twin Peaks was broadcast into every home in America, which instantly created new fans of his work. It was something that people got to see every week (when it wasnt pre-empted), and hit a nerve with viewers, via the music, mood, characters and storyline that kept people on the edge of their seats. Before TP, there was nothing even remotely like it on television. It was groundbreaking and changed the possibility of what television could be. We have Mark Frost to thank for making it palatable for TV and Lynch to thank for the overall mood.
Ben: "We've laid in a gala reception for your fair-haired boys tonight. All of Twin Peaks' best and brightest." Jerry: "We're holding it in a phone booth?"
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| 19. Monday, April 6, 2009 7:36 AM |
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QUOTE: | QUOTE: Eraserhead was weird, but that had been done. |
i'm ignorant on the history of film i guess, i can't think of anything like it but i'm sure there 85 little european just like it that i don't know about. |
It's not film history so much as art history. Eraserhead is heavily influenced by Francis Bacon and the Dada movement. Watch Dreams That Money Can Buy.
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| 20. Saturday, September 26, 2009 4:09 PM |
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I think it's because it's his most accessible work. And it's more accessible because it was on tv so certain things had to be toned down and due to the collaboration with Mark Frost. Also, because it's a tv show it allows more characters to be involved and more storylines to happen, so I guess you could say that there's something in it for everyone. Well, not everyone, but that does help reach a bigger audience.
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| 21. Sunday, September 27, 2009 6:40 AM |
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QUOTE:| QUOTE:No, weird, expressionistic things had been done in that medium. Eraserhead was an original thing. |
original but still had been done before? like it took previously used ideas and made them into something new? i'm not getting it. | What if you took Dreyer's Vampyr and placed it in the first 15 or so minutes of Antonioni's Red Desert?
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| 22. Sunday, September 27, 2009 8:48 AM |
| Ivan Sputnik |
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The characters were more appealing than in most of his films. Would you rather be Dale Cooper or Fred Madison? Audrey Horne or Diane Selwyn? That doesn't make it better than the films, but it does make it more accessible.
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| 23. Sunday, September 27, 2009 1:39 PM |
| giospurs |
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| QUOTE:I think it's because it's his most accessible work. And it's more accessible because it was on tv so certain things had to be toned down and due to the collaboration with Mark Frost. Also, because it's a tv show it allows more characters to be involved and more storylines to happen, so I guess you could say that there's something in it for everyone. Well, not everyone, but that does help reach a bigger audience. |
I really don't think it is more accessible.What is easier to introduce people to: Blue Velvet; Elephant Man; or a two-season TV show with a 90-minute pilot introduction. Obviously, that's just going on length, but in films I think people are willing to put up with some weirdness. There's some strange characters in WAH, but you aren't going to have to watch them for two series. You might not get what's going on in Mulholland Dr. but you can just enjoy the atmosphere for two and a half hours. I think that's harder to accept with a TV show. Anyhow, I have had more success in introducing people to Lynch's films than TP or, God forbid, On the Air.
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| 24. Sunday, September 27, 2009 5:48 PM |
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QUOTE: | QUOTE:I think it's because it's his most accessible work. And it's more accessible because it was on tv so certain things had to be toned down and due to the collaboration with Mark Frost. Also, because it's a tv show it allows more characters to be involved and more storylines to happen, so I guess you could say that there's something in it for everyone. Well, not everyone, but that does help reach a bigger audience. |
I really don't think it is more accessible.What is easier to introduce people to: Blue Velvet; Elephant Man; or a two-season TV show with a 90-minute pilot introduction. Obviously, that's just going on length, but in films I think people are willing to put up with some weirdness. There's some strange characters in WAH, but you aren't going to have to watch them for two series. You might not get what's going on in Mulholland Dr. but you can just enjoy the atmosphere for two and a half hours. I think that's harder to accept with a TV show. Anyhow, I have had more success in introducing people to Lynch's films than TP or, God forbid, On the Air.
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Which do you consider to be his most accessible work?
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| 25. Monday, September 28, 2009 1:32 AM |
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"Watch Dreams That Money Can Buy." - faceintheleaves I first heard about that film years ago and wanted to see it but forgot about it. Thanks for reminding me!
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