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1. Thursday, December 4, 2008 12:23 PM
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DL has given only one long interview discussing his films in detail, Scene by Scene. Here is the link to youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaIWQIetu80 There are 5 parts.

What do people think of the program and what DL says? Also, the interviewer gets a hard time from youtube posters (mainly morons, it has to be said), do you think he does okay or badly?

 
2. Thursday, December 4, 2008 5:29 PM
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Yes, they are right. I couldn't even get through the introduction. It's not his accent, that's fine, but the way he's speaking, like he's reading a cue card, but trying to sound enigmatic at the same time.

 
3. Thursday, December 4, 2008 8:36 PM
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I thought the interviewer did a fine job. He's obviously looking for specific answers in a few parts, but that's kind of how you sketch an interview. In talk shows, the interviewer and interviewee rehearse first, so there's a rhythm and no uncomfortable pauses. This interview was more conversational. He was there "with" his subject instead of firing off the usual questions (excepting the BOB question)from a smarmy pedestal, patronizing the weird guy, like so many interviewers do. He was appropriately humble, I think that's where people get annoyed with his delivery.

- Though the answers were pretty standard. DL has gotten good at this. He's even comfortable saying "I'd have to think about that" or "I don't remember anymore."

 
4. Saturday, December 6, 2008 4:33 AM
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Wow, thank you for posting this. It's so rare hearing David  talk personally about  specific scenes in his movies. That was relaxing and  funny.

In Part 3 David confesses he doesn't like to be out into the world, that he loves working inside by and the interviewer told him "Is that agoraphobia?" and David "I have an hair of that". I think he doesn't know what he says. Agoraphobia makes you feel more than uneasy when you're out. You feel sick, you get panic, you can almost die. David Lynch, although he's an intensive smoker, is not sick at all. He's a genius. Geniuses often were unlikely to have a good relationship with the outside world. That's a different story. it's not agoraphobia. Anyone agree?


"Did they scoff the whole damn Smörgåsbord?" (Audrey) 

"Gimme a donut!" (Coop)

 
5. Saturday, December 6, 2008 10:44 AM
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QUOTE: the interviewer told him "Is that agoraphobia?" and David "I have an hair of that". I think he doesn't know what he says. Agoraphobia makes you feel more than uneasy when you're out. You feel sick, you get panic, you can almost die. David Lynch, although he's an intensive smoker, is not sick at all. He's a genius. Geniuses often were unlikely to have a good relationship with the outside world. That's a different story. it's not agoraphobia. Anyone agree?


 

The point is that he identifies with the agoraphobic. He didn't say he was mentally ill. His perception of Philadelphia in the 70's, well, and the themes for all his films, are evidence of the agoraphobic cognitive distortion that there is sickness, decay and fear in places that seem safe enough to most people. But really, don't we all feel a little like that? I know the evening news makes me never want to go outside again.

 
6. Sunday, December 7, 2008 7:01 AM
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QUOTE:
QUOTE: the interviewer told him "Is that agoraphobia?" and David "I have an hair of that". I think he doesn't know what he says. Agoraphobia makes you feel more than uneasy when you're out. You feel sick, you get panic, you can almost die. David Lynch, although he's an intensive smoker, is not sick at all. He's a genius. Geniuses often were unlikely to have a good relationship with the outside world. That's a different story. it's not agoraphobia. Anyone agree?

 


  The point is that he identifies with the agoraphobic. He didn't say he was mentally ill. His perception of Philadelphia in the 70's, well, and the themes for all his films, are evidence of the agoraphobic cognitive distortion that there is sickness, decay and fear in places that seem safe enough to most people. But really, don't we all feel a little like that? I know the evening news makes me never want to go outside again.

 Nobody said that Lynch is mentally ill. It's undeniable that Lynch has his particular vision of things and the words he uses can make him appear a nutso to a stranger's eyes. I have to say that I've seen pictures, movies and I've got some friends who travelled to the U.S. and the feeling I get of Philadelphia is that it's really got something eerie and dark. About the agoraphobia, it's important not to mistake it with an understandable dark alley and nightime places' scare. That's not agoraphobia at all. I think someone needs to refresh their memory on what this word truly means.


"Did they scoff the whole damn Smörgåsbord?" (Audrey) 

"Gimme a donut!" (Coop)

 
7. Sunday, December 7, 2008 4:23 PM
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I think we're misunderstanding eachother, mr. s.

You say agoraphobia is the wrong word, but DL has used that word to diagnose himself, as people do. Obviously it's an exaggeration. When Jerry Horne says he's depressed over Laura's death, he doesn't mean he's suffering from clinical depression and would benefit from seeking psychiatric help. These words are just shortcuts to describe intense feelings, like feeling safer indoors.

Also, Peggy Reavey has said that they way DL saw Philadelphia was a reflection of his emotional state. She thought it was a great place. I've also lived in PA, which is as beautiful as Washington State. Philly is like any other urban city, with some low income and industrial areas.

Agoraphobia is more or less an irrational fear of leaving the house. DL may have had an irrational anxiety regarding the urban area outside his doors.

 
8. Monday, December 8, 2008 6:17 AM
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Yeah, but we must analyze  this in the particular perspective that the final part of the interview is put.

The interviewer asks Lynch about politics, religion and if he feels he is part of a generation of American film-makers and stuff like that and Lynch gives him the answers he somewhat is expecting. 

Lynch has its unique vision and world. He, like many other geniuses (I'm not kidding, I really think that he's a genius) can be mistaken as a misanthropist, a lunatic, an agoraphobic for expressing lack of interest in film critics, interviewers, other directors, politics and also people from his audience. I think he looks that way because he wants to preserve his own personal innocence and imaginativeness. That doesn't mean that he's self-indulgent. With his movies, Lynch expresses many many opinions on different issues and he shows his interest in humanity. Plus, we know that he has a life, wives, children, friends.

Although the word agoraphobia is tossed in this interview, we gotta see it in perspective with the other things Lynch says, explicitly or implicitly and understand it's not about agoraphobia we're dealing with here, but genius.

The real agoraphobic is a chronically ill person, mostly often confined to his/her home. Other people who suffer from it but manage to go out, can't be joining  the social world in any case. It starts with panic attacks in any kind of public place with just a bunch of people and it extends to avenues and squares with big events, but it has deep psychological roots.

Doctors and therapist tend to use mind-bending pills and cognitive therapy as a cure, with the result of giving these people the impression that with chemicals they are dealing positively with their own illness. The best thing to do for an agoraphobic is convince him/her starting a long session of psychoanalysys. The problem is it's always really hard to convince an agoraphobic to do something that is out of his normal domestic routine.

I speak from experience because my grandmother is a sort of self-inflicted agoraphobic. When she was still young, my grandfather died (he was young too) and she never recovered from that. She tried to kill herself by taking pills and drinking. She managed to stop drinking but as soon as she came out of the hospital, she started taking mind-bending pills and since then - 25 years ago - she's been putting herself away in a country house owned by her wealthy sister. She never comes out except when doctors can't visit her at home and she is carried in an ambulance vehicle, which doesn't allow to see the world outside. She doesn't have a perception of the outer world if not by looking distorted TV programs. For that matter, she is still back in the world of 25 years ago.


"Did they scoff the whole damn Smörgåsbord?" (Audrey) 

"Gimme a donut!" (Coop)

 
9. Monday, December 8, 2008 11:38 AM
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QUOTE:

Although the word agoraphobia is tossed in this interview, we gotta see it in perspective with the other things Lynch says, explicitly or implicitly and understand it's not about agoraphobia we're dealing with here, but genius.

I may not have made this clear in my other posts on this thread, but the interviewer is only repeating the word because its something Lynch has been saying about himself in interviews for years. He's a genius, I'm sure he means that he has "a hair of that [agoraphobia]" when he says it. For whatever reason. The interviewer is very aware this is hyperbole, but obviously Lynch feels strongly that he is a little agoraphobic because he keeps saying it.

In context: the Lynch painting Shadow of a Twisted Hand Across My House is the visual they pair with that question.


 
10. Monday, December 8, 2008 2:56 PM
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Oh well, I give up.

I didn't know that he said that before in the past years.

Maybe Harold's character in TP comes out of that, who knows...


"Did they scoff the whole damn Smörgåsbord?" (Audrey) 

"Gimme a donut!" (Coop)

 

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