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| 1. Friday, February 10, 2006 1:21 PM |
| tbwart |
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Hi to all, Maybe this is nothing, but ever since I watched TP I am sure that almost everything has a certain significance in both the movie and the series. So, from that point of view, what could be the significance of the fallen deer on the table in one of the first episode's in season one. Could it have anything to do with the 'fallen' of the town called 'deer meadow'? Or is there maybe any other reference to other strange fenomena in TP? I would like to know your opinion on this, and also on other strange and seemingly insignificant things in TP.
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| 2. Friday, February 10, 2006 8:05 AM |
| carlrodd |
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it's my observation that david lynch enjoys getting people off balance. in alot of his work, he uses props or a bit of dialogue to get the characters off-balance and it does the same to the viewer. it's like an out of place interruption right in the middle of everything, and usually totally unrelated. i think lynch really dislikes conventional stuff, and without that tinge of wierd, out of place stuff, alot of times you would just have boring narrative. not to say that i am at all bored by the second series, but notice how convetional alot of that writing and directing is without him. the wierd stuff keeps you paying close attention.
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| 3. Friday, February 10, 2006 11:20 AM |
| Frank L. |
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Good point. Maybe BECAUSE Lynch-movies are usually weird, with a lot of hidden meanings we, as fans, tend to over-analyse and search meaning behind everything. Or David 's saying to himself: "they still don't get it"...
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| 4. Friday, February 10, 2006 11:53 AM |
| JVSCant |
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As a fan of radical subjectivism, I figure anything you can find and explain counts when it comes to aesthetic interpretations. But I doubt very much that the deer head thing was intended as a reference to Deer Meadow, or vice-versa...
 
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| 5. Friday, February 10, 2006 3:34 PM |
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As a former student of art, it appears Lynch operates on intuition the way the Surrealists did: opening his mind and allowing dreams and irrational associations to form. The explanations and connections (if there are any) come later. Perhaps they never become clear, even to Lynch himself. Some of the oddities are deliberate "clues", some are symbolic of underlying concerns or obsessions (fire, highways, red drapes), others are purely dream-inspired juxtapositions. Often just a texture or colour needs to be in the frame to complete the tableau and DL reaches for something that will "work" pictorially. Everything is carefully judged but it isn't necessarily meant to be read symbolically. Of course, separating out what is germane to the plot or themes and what is the result of a dream/vision is virtually impossible for outsiders to work out. Agreed: don't overanalyse. The problem is where to stop. Writer JG Ballard described Blue Velvet as the first American Surrealist film. He was wrong on several counts but Surrealism is relevant to DL. (Marks out of 10 for pretension?)
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| 6. Friday, February 10, 2006 5:25 PM |
| Drey |
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As much as I like interpretations in David Lynch's work, I think this is actually a coincidence. I bet that all there is, is that the set dresser tried to hang it on the wall, but it kept falling down. Lynch saw this and he came up with the idea of just putting the deer on the table and have the woman say that it fell down. Just an inside joke. That would be typical Lynch. Just as he did with the chairs beside Ronette's bed at the hospital in ep. 2.1
That's one of the reasons I like his work. There's so much "unnessecary" hidden humor that most people just find strange or don't even notice at all. Things like that deer. I'll bet that most people didn't even remember that there ever was a deer in the whole series. I notice it every time I watch it and find it amusing and really funny.
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| 7. Friday, February 10, 2006 6:11 PM |
| rocksandbottles |
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There's the deer in episode 1...the one in Harry's office *The Buck Stopped Here*...the hoof gunrack in Coop's room at the Great Northern....then the one in Deer Meadow... I always get a chuckle at the deer head on the table in ep. 1...especially the mix of bewilderment/disgust on Coop's face. Makes me think of Harry's, "Watch your step there, City Boy." :) Coop's not used to seeing deer mounts on the wall...or on the table of a room containing social security boxes...:) "Oh, it fell down." So nonchalant...good stuff!!
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| 8. Friday, February 10, 2006 10:02 PM |
| 12rainbow |
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My favorite stuffed deer is the one the stagehand is carrying when he walks across the shot while Norma, Dick and Mayor Milford, I think, are talking amongst themselves about the pageant. You know the one, the way he's holding it looks kind of... suggestive  ?
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| 9. Saturday, February 11, 2006 3:08 AM |
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And what about the fish in the coffee machine?
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| 10. Saturday, February 11, 2006 8:45 AM |
| Montana |
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| QUOTE:And what about the fish in the coffee machine? |
That is explained in the voiceover on the dvd on that episode. The fact it was a fish (instead of a sausage) comes from Pete being a keen fisherman. I can't see any symbolism in it.
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