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| 1. Monday, June 2, 2008 3:24 PM |
| coolspringsj |
Weakest TP episode ending |
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We all know and love TP on here, blah, blah, blah. One of the neat things I always enjoyed about each TP episode was how it would end with a cliffhanger to leave you thinking about it until the following week or episode. They were usually excellent and they made you not want the episode to end. But occasionally there were some at the other end of the spectrum. What TP episode do you think had the weakest cliffhanger ending? My vote (first that comes to mind) would be the one where Jonathan attacks Hank in the Double R. Runner up would be Jonesy preparing to strangle Truman. What are yours?
"Harry, I'm going to let you in on a little secret. Every day, once a day, give yourself a present. Don't plan it, don't wait for it, just let it happen. Could be a new shirt at the men's store, a catnap in your office chair, or two cups of good, hot, black coffee. Like this." -Dale Cooper
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| 2. Monday, June 2, 2008 5:06 PM |
| giospurs |
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I'd agree about Jonathan attacking Hank, we don't care about either of them! On the subject of great endings, though, I just watched episode 27, which ends with a tracking shot down the school corridor, the Great Northern, and then Bob's hand reaching out from the woods, and the red curtains reflected in water with the Badalamenti's jazzy music emanating from it. Brilliant.
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| 3. Monday, June 2, 2008 6:11 PM |
| B |
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Episode 17...Cooper returns to the campfire to find the Major missing--Cheesy effects ahead of an increasingly meandering story line.
-B
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| 4. Monday, June 2, 2008 7:47 PM |
| MisterGrey |
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Doesn't an episode end with Thomas Eckhardt's introduction? That, for me, was the series' weakest moment outside of James/Evelyn. I never bought Eckhardt as a villain; all we ever did was hear people say, essentially, "Oh, he's a bad man," and any involvement he may have had in the supposed Packard murder was overshadowed by the more interesting and charismatic Ben Horne, whom we actually got to see in action. Eckhardt's character was a victim of the writing trap of "telling, not showing." Why are we supposed to give creedence to Mary Alice when she says "THOMAS ECKHARDT!" in that self-assured tone? Why are we supposed to react with any kind of awe when the camera zooms in on him? Having fire reflected in your Ray-Bans is something you damn well earn, not something you appear with in your first scene.
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| 5. Tuesday, June 3, 2008 8:21 AM |
| tp3 |
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I'd agree with B on the Coop and Major scene in the woods ending. Maybe we didn't need to be shown all of that, it could have just been referred to. It isn't exactly an ending but playing the Ben and Jerry cine-film under the closing credits doesn't seem right. It makes Twin Peaks seem a less interesting drama and comes across as being corny, reducing the show to a kind of family drama with cheesy recollections of the 50s. We didn't need that because the show was already in a kind of indeterminate time zone. I know the Laura Palmer pic that closed the show became far less relevant but they could have ended it with any another simple image as Lynch did in the How's Annie episode, couldn't they?
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| 6. Tuesday, June 3, 2008 4:36 PM |
| Evenreven |
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Although it's well done and a good episode, the Hank and Jonathan cliffhanger was by far the weakest yet.
But the worst for me - and by a pretty wide margin - is Windom Earle finding Owl Cave (which is also from a good episode).
"What credit card do you want to put that on?" "Caash, prease."
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| 7. Tuesday, June 3, 2008 8:23 PM |
| geoffr111 |
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idk, yo. it seems to me that harold's garden rake facial wound is pretty much a wtf moment that i could have lived without.
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| 8. Wednesday, June 4, 2008 12:22 AM |
| Evenreven |
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It's a wtf moment, all right, but I was actually really scared the first time I saw that. It worked.
"What credit card do you want to put that on?" "Caash, prease."
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| 9. Wednesday, June 4, 2008 12:32 AM |
| Weasels Ripped My Flesh! |
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For the best i'd have to go with Bob's entrance from the black lodge, while the worst would have to the Hank/Johnathan ending. Also, the Josie-trapped-in-the-door-handle ending also made me think 'what the hell?'
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| 10. Wednesday, June 4, 2008 3:03 AM |
| giospurs |
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| QUOTE:idk, yo. it seems to me that harold's garden rake facial wound is pretty much a wtf moment that i could have lived without. |
I really liked that. I love Harold, he's not mentioned on here much but I think he's a really strong character and his plot works really well. As the first time I watched the episodes, I found him really scary and was just waiting for him to attack Donna, I was squirming when she went exploring in his living room. And the second time, the fear factor was gone as I knew he never did anything but I felt really sorry for him and realised how exploited he was by Donna, which I didn't think about first time through.
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| 11. Wednesday, June 4, 2008 4:58 AM |
| geoffr111 |
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don't get me wrong, i think the suspense in the harold scene is great... it's just the face-raking action that needed to have been rethought. there is no purpose for it, it isnt executed well, and it looks stupid in the following episode where he's running around with these gaping face wounds and screaming "NO!" And let's not forget, "Do you know what the ultimate secret is? Laura did. The secret of who killed you." Oh yikes kids, really?
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| 12. Wednesday, June 4, 2008 5:54 AM |
| Evenreven |
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I don't have any trouble with that line. It's a nice little cliffhanger - it makes you wonder how much Harold actually knows. Btw, what do you mean by "no purpose"? Tell that to all the kids out there with self-inflicted wounds. ;) Seriously, I think it works because you're not sure if Harold's homicidal, suicidal or both.
"What credit card do you want to put that on?" "Caash, prease."
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| 13. Wednesday, June 4, 2008 2:14 PM |
| coolspringsj |
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I forgot about the Thomas Eckhardt one. He might as well have had someone write THIS GUY IS BAD with a black magic marker on his forehead. The fire in the sunglasses -ooooooooooh- spooky!
"Harry, I'm going to let you in on a little secret. Every day, once a day, give yourself a present. Don't plan it, don't wait for it, just let it happen. Could be a new shirt at the men's store, a catnap in your office chair, or two cups of good, hot, black coffee. Like this." -Dale Cooper
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| 14. Wednesday, June 4, 2008 2:28 PM |
| rocksandbottles |
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I'll take the Hank/Jonathan ending for $200, Alex. "Blood brother...next time, I'll take your head off." Isn't that what he says? Flashlight *SWISH*! Ooh, how dramatic. The Jones/Truman attempted strangle is next in line.
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| 15. Saturday, June 7, 2008 6:03 AM |
| Gordon |
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I really dig Harold's ketchup-dispenser gardening tool... Well, ok, I don't... I vote for Hank vs. Jonathan too...
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| 16. Saturday, June 7, 2008 6:59 AM |
| MayRay |
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I agree with the Josie in the knob thing. Nothing ever came of that. What does it all mean???
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| 17. Thursday, June 12, 2008 11:44 PM |
| Cooped |
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Ep 28....Coop standing like a moron, with the stupidly poorly delivered "what...?" It amazed me how only Andy seemed to realise IT WAS BLATANTLY A MAP!!! Argh!!! Thank god ep 29 was so good. I hate hate hate ep 28!!!
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| 18. Friday, June 13, 2008 4:36 AM |
| Montana |
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| QUOTE: It isn't exactly an ending but playing the Ben and Jerry cine-film under the closing credits doesn't seem right. It makes Twin Peaks seem a less interesting drama and comes across as being corny, reducing the show to a kind of family drama with cheesy recollections of the 50s. We didn't need that because the show was already in a kind of indeterminate time zone. |
I agree in part. I think the director had that change in credits okayed by DL (I recall that from an interview on the dvd). Though, in a way, that was a kind of lull in the show after Leland Palmer and before the Windom Earle storylines and the gentle atypical credits reflected that.
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| 19. Friday, June 13, 2008 11:12 AM |
| coolspringsj |
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It was hard to believe that the dumbest person on the show Andy would figure out the heiroglyph was a map and not Agent Cooper or someone else.
"Harry, I'm going to let you in on a little secret. Every day, once a day, give yourself a present. Don't plan it, don't wait for it, just let it happen. Could be a new shirt at the men's store, a catnap in your office chair, or two cups of good, hot, black coffee. Like this." -Dale Cooper
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| 20. Sunday, June 15, 2008 3:11 PM |
| MisterGrey |
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Ben Horne's home movies are actually one of my personal favorite endings. On one level, it gives us a glimpse, albeit a very small one, into the town's past. The Great Northern is one of the defining locations in Twin Peaks, and here was a look at how it began. On another level, it allowed us to delve into Ben Horne's character complexities, of which I've always said there are many. I never saw him as a two-dimensional Mr. Burns character, and there are several episodes where we get inklings that there really is more lurking beneath the surface than we're let on to believe. For me, the home movies reel lent the episode a feel of nostalgia and lost hope that is very Lynchian.
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| 21. Thursday, June 26, 2008 9:48 AM |
| chalfont |
RE: Weakest TP episode ending |
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| QUOTE: Ben Horne's home movies are actually one of my personal favorite endings. On one level, it gives us a glimpse, albeit a very small one, into the town's past. The Great Northern is one of the defining locations in Twin Peaks, and here was a look at how it began. On another level, it allowed us to delve into Ben Horne's character complexities, of which I've always said there are many. I never saw him as a two-dimensional Mr. Burns character, and there are several episodes where we get inklings that there really is more lurking beneath the surface than we're let on to believe. For me, the home movies reel lent the episode a feel of nostalgia and lost hope that is very Lynchian. |
Yes!! Spot on.
This, and the scene with Louise Dombrowski(?) really makes the town to seem more "real" to me.
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