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| 1. Wednesday, November 28, 2007 5:48 PM |
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Michael Ontkean |
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There are no interviews with Michael Ontkean on the old DVD sets or the new one. Anyone know why this is? Has he chosen not to be a part of it anymore? Sometimes actors distance themselves from earlier work for various reasons. Same goes for Lara Flynn Boyle... It seems she's caught up in the whole Hollywood thing with plastic surgery and all that crap. But then, what do I know.
Anyway... I was hoping Michael would be featured on the new DVD. I was also hoping for Harry Goaz. :(
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| 2. Wednesday, November 28, 2007 6:15 PM |
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Yeah, I feel the same way. I was really hoping for Micheal and Harry. But I was more disapointed that there was no Richard Beymer. Im surprised Kyle is willing. It's usually the main star of the show who is not willing to talk about it much. Bastards. Anyway, we did get Ray Wise which was a real treat for me since he was my favorite actor from the show. The part of the interview where he talks about hoping he wasn't the killer of Laura Palmer was really interesting.
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| 3. Wednesday, November 28, 2007 6:24 PM |
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I've heard that Ontkean & Boyle are kinda wanting to distance themselves from Peaks. Sure they're proud of their work on it, but... Don't know exactly why. Heard Goaz has kinda dropped out of sight. As for Kyle, his distancing was more to try & not get typecast as the standard Lynch leading man, and his post-Lynch career has been spotty. But being that David discovered him & basically MADE him via Dune, Blue Velvet & TP, he kinda owes him. Plus, being a native Washingtonian, I'm sure the show must have a special place in his pants, I mean, HEART!!! (Even if most of it was shot in L.A.) There'll be loads more interviews in the upcoming Greenbutt Skunk Edition Box Set, I'm sure!!!
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| 4. Wednesday, November 28, 2007 6:30 PM |
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Kyle probably did it because he owes Lynch so much for his career. Kyle is also on the old DVDs. It seems that he doesn't mind talking about Twin Peaks. But again, he is good friends with Lynch and probably wouldn't be where he is today if it weren't for Lynch. He also knows he's gotta be a good sport when there's a new editon of the DVD coming up since... what would the a definitiv gold box editon of Twin Peaks be without the main star? Not much. Anyway, too bad there are some actors that aren't interviewed. I was really hoping for Michael Ontkean. I don't know what Jonathan Wentworth is doing on "A Slice of Lynch". Who cares what he has to say. Hehe. They should have taken an actor or maybe even Mark Frost instead and not an assistant/sound guy.
Richard Beymer is on the old DVDs.
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| 5. Wednesday, November 28, 2007 6:27 PM |
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| QUOTE: I've heard that Ontkean & Boyle are kinda wanting to distance themselves from Peaks. Sure they're proud of their work on it, but... Don't know exactly why. Heard Goaz has kinda dropped out of sight. As for Kyle, his distancing was more to try & not get typecast as the standard Lynch leading man, and his post-Lynch career has been spotty. But being that David discovered him & basically MADE him via Dune, Blue Velvet & TP, he kinda owes him. Plus, being a native Washingtonian, I'm sure the show must have a special place in his pants, I mean, HEART!!! (Even if most of it was shot in L.A.) There'll be loads more interviews in the upcoming Greenbutt Skunk Edition Box Set, I'm sure!!! |
Yeah, maybe when there's a HD-DVD or Blu-Ray release there will be more interviews.
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| 6. Wednesday, November 28, 2007 6:49 PM |
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As for Beymer, I think his sorta TP Fest documentary (covering 3 Fests) Here We Are One More Time, is superior to the one on the box. It has a lot of his unique humor in it & is damned entertaining. He catches his interviewees somewhat offguard & genuine. The folks on the official doc are somewhat more self-conscious, trying to be intelligent & normal & really rather staid. And I know (& love) most of these folks. Beymer's take makes us seem more exciting, PLUS it doesn't have the Jar Jar of the new doc: Cherry Bomb!!! May the next edition include Here We Are, AND Flappy (& not JUST because I have a stake in both of 'em).
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| 7. Wednesday, November 28, 2007 8:03 PM |
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| 8. Thursday, November 29, 2007 8:51 AM |
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this is a snippet from the itnerview Brian at dugpa.com had with Charlie who did the DVD: http://www.dugpa.com/interview_lauzirika.php Even though we didn't get everybody we wanted, we did get most of them, along with a lot of previously-unsung crew members. As for the cast, Amy Lowe, my associate producer on this, actually made contact with Michael Ontkean in Hawaii, and began a long series of interesting conversations with him about participating, but ultimately, he politely opted out, despite initially wanting to shoot his own interview for the documentary, which would have been wild. We came close to getting Lara Flynn Boyle, but there were scheduling issues. Same with Heather Graham and others. Believe me, we tried to get more than we did, but I'm more than pleased with the interviews we did get. I was especially happy that we got Joan Chen, Piper Laurie and Ray Wise, in addition to Kyle MacLachlan, Sheryl Lee and the rest. Not to mention Mark Frost, whose entire interview is just superb from beginning to end. He's pretty much the narrative spine of the documentary.
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| 9. Thursday, November 29, 2007 10:36 AM |
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| QUOTE: The folks on the official doc are somewhat more self-conscious, trying to be intelligent & normal & really rather staid. |
Well, aside from the fact that I AM intelligent and normal and not just "trying to be", I interviewed in a professional manner because as a festival organizer, I felt it best to present myself that way. Of course, didn't help that the documentary folks FAILED to identify either Jared or myself as organizers, so I come off sounding a bit like a dolt. But at the end of the day, I would rather have that be what represents the festival to the larger population than Beymer's docu. I think Charlie's documentary was more respectful to the festival and the fandom, whereas Beymer's film is at times very condescending and feels more like the fest-goers were being ridiculed, something I don't condone regardless of how famous the filmmaker is. That's not to say that I don't like Beymer's film. I really do like it. But which would I rather have representing the festival? Charlie's documentary, hands-down.
~ Amanda "Just fear me, love me, do as I say and I will be your slave..."
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| 10. Thursday, November 29, 2007 2:39 PM |
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I also really loved Charlie's documentary. I also thought that people's professional and intellegent attitude, went a long way in showing people how we take the fest to such a respectful and appropriate level. Amanda and Jared had alot of screen time, and they really showed how the fest comes to be....especially talking about how once you come a few times...it all really becomes about the friendships you make, and being around other loving TP fans!
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| 11. Thursday, November 29, 2007 5:52 PM |
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The Twin Peaks festival documentary was an unexpected highlight of the Gold box special features for me and it's better than A Slice of Lynch. It helps that I went to Snoqualmie earlier this year and can now force people to watch the coach tour while saying "I went there... and there... couldn't find that..." etc. etc. Nobody comes across as being mad or scary. Have you seen the documentary about Star Trek fans? As representation goes, it's a total drive-by.
I ran from the noise and the silence, from the traffic on the streets
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| 12. Thursday, November 29, 2007 7:37 PM |
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| QUOTE: Nobody comes across as being mad or scary. Have you seen the documentary about Star Trek fans? As representation goes, it's a total drive-by. |
Oh my gawd, yes. I used to attend Trek conventions a lot when I was younger and I can say that both Trekkie films barely scratched the surface of the sheer volume of freaks that frequent that fandom. LOL Don't get me wrong. I love my Trek and I love my Trek conventions, but I will be the first to step up and say "Yeah...we've got some f**king lunatics..." So glad the fest docu didn't come across like that at all. :) Anyway. As far as Ontkean and the other "missing" celeb interviews...it is truly a bummer to not be able to hear from certain TP folks, but the interviews we do have are just great. I for one never expected to get to hear Joan Chen wax poetic about Peaks. I've heard she's not a very pleasant person to begin with, so to have that for us on the DVD was really cool. I think we're fortunate to have as many celebrity interviews on all the collective TP DVD sets out there as we do. It's not often you get so many cast members from a show or film to chat about their roles...
~ Amanda "Just fear me, love me, do as I say and I will be your slave..."
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| 13. Thursday, November 29, 2007 8:25 PM |
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QUOTE: | QUOTE: The folks on the official doc are somewhat more self-conscious, trying to be intelligent & normal & really rather staid. |
Well, aside from the fact that I AM intelligent and normal and not just "trying to be", I interviewed in a professional manner because as a festival organizer, I felt it best to present myself that way. Of course, didn't help that the documentary folks FAILED to identify either Jared or myself as organizers, so I come off sounding a bit like a dolt. But at the end of the day, I would rather have that be what represents the festival to the larger population than Beymer's docu. I think Charlie's documentary was more respectful to the festival and the fandom, whereas Beymer's film is at times very condescending and feels more like the fest-goers were being ridiculed, something I don't condone regardless of how famous the filmmaker is. That's not to say that I don't like Beymer's film. I really do like it. But which would I rather have representing the festival? Charlie's documentary, hands-down. | Now see, ya took that the wrong way. Of course everyone is intelligent & you & Jared should've received proper credit. They covered just about every event in the fest & interviewed many people, but to me it just came across as a bit dry & businesslike. Not a bad calling card ad, I suppose. But to an insider, Beymer's is more delicious, snarky & spontaneous. The official doc just feels kinda pre-meditated. And I don't know Charlie (I did speak with Amy). He didn't approach me during the fest. But there were a lot of folks he did get in. I think that watching both docs would give one a better perspective.
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| 14. Thursday, November 29, 2007 9:12 PM |
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OSF was that you that dressed up as party guy Leo Johnson? very funny indeed I loved the fest documentary, was cool to see folk offa here in real life. I'd love to go, it looks like a alot of fun. Good advertisment IMO
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| 15. Friday, November 30, 2007 2:37 AM |
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QUOTE:QUOTE: | QUOTE: The folks on the official doc are somewhat more self-conscious, trying to be intelligent & normal & really rather staid. |
Well, aside from the fact that I AM intelligent and normal and not just "trying to be", I interviewed in a professional manner because as a festival organizer, I felt it best to present myself that way. Of course, didn't help that the documentary folks FAILED to identify either Jared or myself as organizers, so I come off sounding a bit like a dolt. But at the end of the day, I would rather have that be what represents the festival to the larger population than Beymer's docu. I think Charlie's documentary was more respectful to the festival and the fandom, whereas Beymer's film is at times very condescending and feels more like the fest-goers were being ridiculed, something I don't condone regardless of how famous the filmmaker is. That's not to say that I don't like Beymer's film. I really do like it. But which would I rather have representing the festival? Charlie's documentary, hands-down. | Now see, ya took that the wrong way. Of course everyone is intelligent & you & Jared should've received proper credit. They covered just about every event in the fest & interviewed many people, but to me it just came across as a bit dry & businesslike. Not a bad calling card ad, I suppose. But to an insider, Beymer's is more delicious, snarky & spontaneous. The official doc just feels kinda pre-meditated. And I don't know Charlie (I did speak with Amy). He didn't approach me during the fest. But there were a lot of folks he did get in. I think that watching both docs would give one a better perspective. |
I just showed Rob the Beymer doc, and he said "the pacing was painful," and that if it was meant to be a celebrity perspective of the Fest, it would scare them off. It was Richard's (and our) home movie, I think. Great fun for those who were there but "meaningless and bland" for those that weren't. So, yeah. Showing all the standing around and bizarre bits of conversations is really more of an inside joke thing than a professional documentary.
Charles captured the same goofiness, and the chilled atmosphere that Beymer did, but with clean editing. The New York Times called it a "giddy promotion for the Twin Peaks fan festival."
Amanda- those of us that know who you are and what you do are the only ones your presentation should matter to, and it was GREAT. I shudder to think of the thousands of strangers watching it going, "Why the hell do I care about these geeks?" Geeeeeeeeks!!!!! Eh, f*ck 'em.
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| 16. Friday, November 30, 2007 3:27 AM |
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I'd love to have seen an Ontkean interview too - is it true that he didn't really act much, either before or since TP? That's pretty amazing, I'd love to see him act again. PS - hello, Ribbons!
Has he taken his eyes off it yet?
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| 17. Friday, November 30, 2007 6:04 AM |
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After seeing Michael Ontkean interviewed on Youtube I'm not sure he's a born raconteur anyway. The only other thing I've seen him in was The Allnighter with Susannah Hoffs. It was on television at some ungodly hour around fifteen years ago. I wasn't expecting to see see Joan Chen on the DVD but I thought she was wondrous and the footage of her walking along the shoreline was beautiful. It reminded me of Laura at the picnic site, which almost single-handedly made me fall in love with Twin Peaks. All the people I wanted to see interviewed were. Sheryl Lee's always a highlight and her story about her parents seeing Blue Velvet is the best thing on the special features disc IMHO. Her impressions of David Lynch telling her he wanted to wrap her in plastic and drop her into freezing cold water, and suspend her from a crane on piano wire are genius. Kimmy Robertson never disappoints, and Catherine Coulson and Ray Wise are brilliant. And when Madchen Amick's talking about the Rolling Stone cover I'm like "You tell it like it is Madchen, girl!" I've always felt that despite the publicity they received Sherilyn Fenn and Lara Flynn Boyle were still Sheryl Lee's deputies. As much as I love Madchen and the character of Audrey the Rolling Stone cover's all about Sheryl Lee for me and she's not even on it!!!! If she had been I suspect Sherilyn and Lara's hair would have gotten so much bigger you'd have been able to see it from space. I thought Phoebe Augustine's comments about not getting the role of Laura because she objected to nudity were a bit spiteful. Yeah she knows how to work that bruised on a railway line look, but it's not very gracious of her and it was about much more than nudity. It's a television show for God's sake, not Hustler, woman! I suppose the fans are an inherent part of the Twin Peaks phenomena and without its small but loyal cult following it's unikely people who've just discovered Twin Peaks would be watching such a lavish presentation of it. Yes David Lynch has failed repeatedly to furnish me with the required Fire Walk With Me deleted scenes (sometimes I cry myself to sleep at night) but the folks at Paramount have put a lot of effort into the Gold box and it's appreciated. Michael Ontkean's a minor niggle at best and I don't actually care that he's missing. Don't let the door hit you on the way out etc. etc.
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| 18. Friday, November 30, 2007 4:18 PM |
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| QUOTE: I thought Phoebe Augustine's comments about not getting the role of Laura because she objected to nudity were a bit spiteful. Yeah she knows how to work that bruised on a railway line look, but it's not very gracious of her and it was about much more than nudity. It's a television show for God's sake, not Hustler, woman! |
Phoebe really was/is just this sweet, shy, nice girl. She was living in the area near the film locations at the time, the guy she's still married to proposed to her in the neighborhood, so it's not like she was a desperate, hungry, starlet. She had the freedom to say 'no.' Nudity, besides being awkward, can set a precedent for a young actress. And she is just not the type to whip it all off for anyone but her husband (also a sweetie, and a great DJ.)
Also, did David really need "Laura" naked, laying in the winter cold on a rocky beach for hours with nothing but plastic on for the pilot? Patricia Arquette called him Satan for a reason... They don't make it clear in the interview that she was hesitant about telling the story because she didn't want to make Sheryl Lee look loose, but even Sheryl herself has to admit she's gone nekkie in almost everything she's been in, and I'd bet money that she (being friendly to the Fest in the past) would have told it, too. Phoebe felt comfortable with us, we wanted to hear it, so she went for it! I know, things look worse than they are out of context in documentaries like that.
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| 19. Friday, November 30, 2007 6:15 PM |
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I'm sure most of y'all don't remember Michael from The Rookies.
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| 20. Friday, November 30, 2007 9:58 PM |
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QUOTE: I thought Phoebe Augustine's comments about not getting the role of Laura because she objected to nudity were a bit spiteful. Yeah she knows how to work that bruised on a railway line look, but it's not very gracious of her and it was about much more than nudity. It's a television show for God's sake, not Hustler, woman! |
I think you're misreading her intent here. I doubt this was meant as a complaint, even a well-meaning one. I think it's more of a joke about Lee's many sexualized screen roles (not the least of which is FWWM), and I think Phoebe was just stating simply that that isn't in her comfort levels. She did say "to her credit," did she not? As for the nudity, it seems pretty lame that Lynch would ask that question. I would apply your comment to HIM, not Phoebe: It's a television show, for God's sake, not Hustler! Laura, wrapped as she is in plastic, CLEARLY has panties on under the shroud. You never even come close to seeing anything... so what was the dealio?
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| 21. Saturday, December 1, 2007 10:50 AM |
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Phoebe's "modesty" aside, though she's sweet, lovely & talented, I just can't conceive of her as Laura. To be fair, Sheryl has been nude in only a few of her roles. The funniest naked bit from her was her PETA campaign, where she's nude & blue on a gurney, with the caption "I'd rather be dead than wear fur". One year she couldn't make the fest & sent a filmed bit aimed against caging wild cats. She was naked & all made up like a cheetah (I think). It didn't really make me feel bad for the jungle pussies, it just made me want to get into the cage with her, in the hopes of getting mauled!!!
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| 22. Saturday, December 1, 2007 11:09 AM |
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QUOTE:I'm sure most of y'all don't remember Michael from The Rookies.  |
The first season ('72-'73) was just released. I vaguely recall it. Michael was also in Slapshot, the hockey movie my ex-wife & I were watching the night she went into labor with our son. And who remembers our Mike in Making Love, where he's married to his Rookies co-star Kate Jackson? He's questioning his heterosexuality, exacerbated further when he meets homo hottie Harry Hamlin (say that 3 times fast!!!). Oh, NOW I gotcher attention, huh...
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| 23. Saturday, December 1, 2007 11:33 AM |
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QUOTE: To be fair, Sheryl has been nude in only a few of her roles.
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Vampires Backbeat Kiss the Sky The Blood Oranges Kingpin Bliss Angel's Dance This World, Then the Fireworks Fire Walk With Me Notes From Underground (just rented this one) Mother Night Red Shoe Diaries 4: AUto Erotica Red Shoe Diaries 3: Another Woman's Lipstick Hitched (she's at least nude in a sheet, if I recall. Held hostage in a basement, chained to a bed.) Red Shoes Diaries Episode 1 (these are all fun, by the way!) There can only be 6 features tops that I haven't seen/don't remember where she's not nude. I'm not talking sh*t, she looks fantastic. Hm. I have to add some of these to my Netflix!
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| 24. Saturday, December 1, 2007 11:52 AM |
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Okay, Angel, I stand erected! I've been naked onstage several times & did some nude artist modeling back in the day. Never been naked in any of the films I've done, but I haven't been asked. Technically I'm naked in my Chew Pool bits (unless you count my bathing cap), as you never see below my waist (we were sportin' Speedos). Sorry if this is T.M.I. for anyone... (prudes)...
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| 25. Saturday, December 1, 2007 4:18 PM |
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I kept waiting for Sheriff Truman to go lace up the skates. http://www.imdb.com/gallery/mptv/1148/Mptv/1148/8203-0003.jpg.html?path=gallery&path_key=0076723
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