Looks like things went a bit bad for DavidLynch in Berlin

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k357ErdUQyk

That's why he should stop doing this kind of things. I know he does it only to do good, but he is starting to appear ridiculous to the whole world with this thing taht looks like a cult to me. I know it's not, don't get me wrong, but the results are these.

The scene was terrible. That guy talking like that on the stage about invincibility really freaked and offended people because Germany's been through all that and it's very risky. When Lynch spoke, I got it that "invincibile" was used to say something else.

I just wish David didn't do this thing. It must've been very embarassing also for himself. Why doesn't he go back to film and give us another "Blue Velvet"? Why do all artists have to get old like that? I don't like what I see.

"Did they scoff the whole damn Smörgåsbord?" (Audrey) 

"Gimme a donut!" (Coop)

That god damn trailer's more popular than Uncle's Day in a whorehouse!

It is obvious lynch's intentions were good, and this guy relayed the material in a way that sounded overly-elitist......

And of course, Lynch didn't know the German. 

Guy in audience -  'Isn't that what Hitler wanted?'

Weird guy - 'Yeah but he didn't succeed!'

lolz

People are frightened of celebrities with good intentions. It inspires the same kind of irrational terror in people as clowns. Whether it's Madonna and Kabbalah, Tom Cruise and Scientology or Oprah's book club it nearly always comes across as condescending. I bought the Catching The Big Fish book and audiobook and bought or downloaded at least three different Consciousness, Creativity and the Brain lectures. I found all of them interesting and even entertaining but I began to lose patience when TM popped up in the special features on the R2 Inland Empire DVD. Given that they weren't that special to begin with (compared with the R1 DVD) I felt he was starting to take the piss. It's like, okay I get the message, there's no need to shout! I paid £17.99 (each) for three different UK DVDs (the standard 2-disc edition, the HMV edition with postcards and the Virgin edition with a silver slipcase) in addition to the Italian and US releases, just to support the film and I was disappointed that a chunk of the special features was devoted to TM.

If celebs with causes really want to make the world a better place they should go to Africa and help build schools, or do voluntary work in a night shelter. The people I admire are the ones who inconvenience themselves to make the world a better place, rather than just throwing money at it and hoping somebody else does the dirty work. I know DL has good intentions and that TM is about getting to the root of everything that's wrong with society but it's all so LA... Instead of having press conferences and fundraisers, setting up websites and going to Africa with camera crews it'd be nice to see celebrities helping the planet by getting their hands dirty for a change. That's why they provoke such hostility.    

Ok, I know DL has taken a bashing over his involvement with meditation in TPG. I also agree I would rather see a new film and that IE is a good piece of work so I would rather DL made new films than did these talks however....

as an Auslander in Germany I have to say that the audience has to take some responsibility for this incident. Germans are very sensitive about anything that could be seen as overt nationalism. I think that this tends to oversensitivity on occasion. Surely any sensible person in the audience would have realised the speakers were committing a minor cultural faux pas and not inciting nationalism or xenophobia.

I write this as someone with many German friends and a positive outlook on Germany.  

To be honest though...Lynch is a brilliant FILMMAKER and ARTIST....and like most brilliant artists, he is a bit of an eccentric and isn't the same as most people.  I don't care what he is into or about the TM stuff.....I just don't take it as seriously as I do his films.

Honestly, it sounded pretty Hitler-esque to me before people started getting outraged. Someone said, "He should use other words. These are very close to the Third Reich." For real. He was talking about "no outside alien influences" after holding up a picture of "the devil's mountain" - that is just not the meditating for peace sentiment. It's not a patriotic movement, and the words "invincible" and "defeat" are not peaceful ones. Why could he have not used the psycho-spiritual hippie approach that they used stateside?

Poor David, smiling, as all of this is going on and trying to mediate. "THANKS, SHERIFF, BUT I ALREADY ATE!"

"When you enlighten unity in the midst of diverstiy, all diversity is appreciated fully... unity doesn't make all diversity homogenize, individuals are more individuals full in the light of unity. It's a very real thing. We're talking all about the same thing. But somhow to unite this beautiful gift that doesn't pervert it. This is our Unified Field. It truly exists." He realizes he has both hands up in a double 'heil' and drops one to the podium before getting metaphysical. Wow. What would Orson Welles say?

The best part:

"Mankind was not made to suffer. Bliss is out nature.... Words trigger things in us... Deal with it... He offended you.. but this is the most positive thing... it's a very good thing for Berlin and all of Germany... let's march boldly forward to a bright new shining future," (someone in the audience laughs)

Berlin shoots down David Lynch's meditation school

BERLIN (Reuters) - Filmmaker David Lynch's plans for a school of transcendental meditation in Berlin hit a snag this week when local officials said he was unlikely to get a building permit.

It's concerning when the pre-conceived ideas of people prevent them from being able to be open to a different way to percieve things.

I'm sure Lynch would be very used to this kind of reaction. 

QUOTE: QUOTE: It's concerning when the pre-conceived ideas of people prevent them from being able to be open to a different way to percieve things. I'm sure Lynch would be very used to this kind of reaction. Yeah, because people should be able to see someone saying they were taking up Hitler's mission in a different way

I don't believe that was the intention being put forward. Do you?

I certainly didn't get that impression. 

No, of course. It was not about that. But the present audience took it personally, as all Germans would do. Plus, that guy with the crown is a total mess of a human being and a true Nazi, because he should have apologized and not say that unfortunately Hitler didn't manage bla bla bla.

Basically, in this occasion this school had the opportunity to show the world the real absurdity of this movement.

I would've liked not to see this video because for me seeing Lynch on that stage was a true blasphemy and a nightmare.

Please, come back David!

"Did they scoff the whole damn Smörgåsbord?" (Audrey) 

"Gimme a donut!" (Coop)

No, I didn't get the impression that's what TM was about on anything else I've seen.

I just want to know how DL got involved with someone who has a Neo-Nazi agenda.  "No alien influences?"

On Hitler's Mountain has a quote from the "expert for racial research" of the Dep. of the Interior during the war who said:

    "Clearly is is necessary that everyone must conserve his kin, connect with German bllod of equal quality and build a healthy, numerous nation. This generation will represent an invincible germany that in the purity of its blood and the strength of its race will fulfill its great tasks in the world"

 
Any public speaker knows that knowing your audience is the number one thing to remember. He knew this would be associated with Hitler and ran with it, anyway. Schiffgens dragged David through the mud, and that really, really sucks! 

Oh well, the Peace Palace at 'Devil's Mountain' (of all palaces, I mean palaces,) may not get a permit anyway.

That fellow traveler of David's may have DL lined up for a Leni Riefenstahl role.  

Or a PR slot explaining what Goldenhead was really saying.

Ya know a red string around a wrist seems mild when compared with this developing nightmare.

That may be for the best! I just think these TM people have a cheek charging people for a mantra. If I held the secret to world peace I'd be happy to share it sans financial gain and I don't profess to be enlightened or special in any way.

God, I can hear Winona Ryder saying "You're beautiful" as I type.