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| 1. Monday, August 27, 2007 12:22 PM |
| Devoured |
Sarah? |
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Did Sarah know Leland did it? I know most things insinuate she didn't, her reaction in the first episode, her visions etc, but what about the fact that he drugged her, it's obvious she notices when he drugs her for Maddie and prompts her to drink it all up, at the funeral she screams something like "Don't ruin [b]this[/b] too!"...so didn't she know, more or less?
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| 2. Monday, August 27, 2007 1:03 PM |
| Wezz the Warlock |
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I think Sarah knew, but was in denial. She is presented as slightly mentally disturbed, which could have come from years of guilt and fear, living with Leland. She didn't have the strength to face the truth, so she buried it and kept on living. This is one of the things where the supernatural elements of TP don't interfere with the reality of a violent father in a family. The way Sarah behaves is quite realistic. -- Vesa 'wtw' Ahola wtw@iki.fi.REMOVE If you chose to dance with a bear, don't stop when you get tired.
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| 3. Wednesday, August 29, 2007 10:34 AM |
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Well I don't think wether or not she has seen BOB in Leland matters all that much - I don't think Leland physically became BOB when he'd go to Laura, she just saw him that way, if not because of a certain paranormal ability, then because it was easier to accept, especially since she was only 12 when it started... Surely Sarah notices being drugged and the fan being turned on at the most ridiculous times? I'll go with her being pretty much an emotional wreck already, and denial, or looking the other way. I mean, wouldn't he most likely be the reason for the mental breakdown she's suffered?
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| 4. Thursday, August 30, 2007 3:49 AM |
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Sarah was in denial, but I think that obviously she *knew* something. Maybe because of her gifted nature, but not only because of that; something terrible is going on in her own house for 5 years, he married a man already possessed by an evil entity, and there are the drugs, the fan, the mood changes in Leland, etc., but she denies herself all that, focusing in how much the three love each other either, her simple life (what does Sarah do other than smoke, read or going to church?)...always in a subconscious level... After Leland dies she forgives him, yes (in a great scene with Coop), but because she understands her husband was not to blame, but BOB... An interesting subject of discussion is what has been mentioned: why Sarah begins seeing BOB?
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| 5. Thursday, August 30, 2007 5:04 AM |
| Devoured |
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Sarah had a breakdown before losing Laura, it's obvious she was like that long before her death, the cigarettes, the reading [how to speak german?]...besides doesn't Laura mention in 'her diary' that her mum is afraid she's having a mental breakdown again at some point? Sarah obviously [b]didn't[/b] see BOB 'in person' until after Laura's death, but I think that's maybe because she's coming closer to her senses, very slowly beginning to realize or accept the truth, although she doesn't really do so at any point until the truth is revealed by other means. Gum. Seriously, after Laura's death Leland is beginning to send out strange signs - BOB's face is more or less starting to show, the Tremond's grandson imitating the jumping man over Judy's - BOB is having problems there, same after Laura's death, there are forces working against him and it's breaking him down, maybe that's why Sarah sees his face... So I guess she knows about him molesting her, and had she had a more stable mind, she would have known he'd killed her too?
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| 6. Monday, September 10, 2007 12:17 PM |
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yeah i think Sarah knew what was going on to a certain extent but obviously not the full lot! With the recent ongoings in her life no wonder her head was messed up. She probs didnt know what to believe
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| 7. Thursday, October 11, 2007 4:34 AM |
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I think she knew he was sexually abusing Laura but not that he was possessed by a demon from the Black Lodge - I'm sure she never even heard of the Black Lodge.
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| 8. Thursday, October 11, 2007 5:10 AM |
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The curious thing is how we don't notice that Cooper doesn't talk to Sarah, and not the Leland, neither, ever. ("I'm a pretty strong sender." Ok, how about later? And Leland? Above suspicion?) Face it, folks. We are so being had. |
Actually, Cooper talks to Sarah and "the Leland" plenty of times. Which show are you watching?
"watch out for my cousin.." 
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| 9. Sunday, October 21, 2007 7:52 AM |
| doppleganger |
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| QUOTE: In the scene where Leland dances with Laura's picture, Sarah says "What's going on in this house?", twice, and then "Oh God!", and then something that if you listen very very intently, is a (muffled) "You! |
Which episode was it?
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| 10. Sunday, October 21, 2007 10:00 AM |
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| QUOTE: After Leland dies she forgives him, yes (in a great scene with Coop), but because she understands her husband was not to blame, but BOB... An interesting subject of discussion is what has been mentioned: why Sarah begins seeing BOB? |
MAYBE (and i am going out on a thin limb here) BOB became manifest to sarah in order to set certain chains of events in place i.e. the death of leland, his inhabited, and then the fall and inhabiting of cooper at the very end what does earle say in the videotape the major shows truman and coop? how the dugpas(which is actually a tibetan buddist term, i think it means 'the yellow hats') anyway how the dugpas propitgate evil for evils sake, everything they do is to manufacture and then feed on garmonbozia(pain and suffering) and if they exist outside the realm of time, BOB would already know coop to be his next vessel. like bowie says in FWWM, as he points to cooper, "just who do you think that is there?" appearing to sarah only hours after laura has been killed is not only a psychic clue, but also the setting of the trap for cooper.
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| 11. Sunday, October 21, 2007 10:26 AM |
| Booth |
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| QUOTE: dugpas(which is actually a tibetan buddist term, i think it means 'the yellow hats')
| The dugpas are the red hats. The yellow hats are called gelugpas.
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| 12. Sunday, October 21, 2007 7:18 PM |
| tatamae |
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just watched the show again, but must've missed this one. what are 'dugpas'? when are they mentioned in the show?
my user name is spelled incorrectly. tatemae
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| 13. Monday, October 22, 2007 5:32 AM |
| Ditte |
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Windom Earle talks about them a little while before he kills that bloke in the chess piece...
Yeah but no but yeah but no but....
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| 14. Monday, October 22, 2007 5:34 AM |
| Ditte |
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QUOTE:| QUOTE: dugpas(which is actually a tibetan buddist term, i think it means 'the yellow hats')
| The dugpas are the red hats. The yellow hats are called gelugpas. |
And how do you guys know that? I could never find anything about them
Yeah but no but yeah but no but....
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