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1. Monday, August 27, 2007 12:18 PM
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Hello, I was wondering if anyone knew exactly what it means when Laura flicks her fingers and says "Meanwhile..." in the final episode and holds her hands up as if to present something...? I'm relatively new to Twin Peaks [or well, I first saw the first season in full some years ago and have watched all of it about 3 times now], just one of those things I can't really place... I know it's mentioned later in the 'Black Lodge' [?], I assume more or less to show that they're the same but not really, but what does her holding up her hands, or her flicking her fingers at Coop?

 
2. Monday, August 27, 2007 8:31 PM
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She snaps her fingers that way (forwards) as a sexual command in FWWM... no clue what that means though.


That god damn trailer's more popular than Uncle's Day in a whorehouse!

 
3. Monday, August 27, 2007 9:09 PM
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It is some sort of gesture that has to do with Bhuddism or theosophy. I dont remember exactly what it means. There is a thread about it somewhere here, or maybe another TP forum, I dont remember.

 
4. Tuesday, August 28, 2007 3:05 PM
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Aha but I was just thinking about what Dr Jacoby up there said...didn't she do it to the guy that she went to Canada with earlier on as well? Buck I think was his name, when she orders him to lick her and Ronette...

Anyway, it was really more the "meanwhile" and holding up her hands I was wondering about, thanks though lol... 

 
5. Tuesday, August 28, 2007 8:30 PM
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That's what I'm talking about too. The hand gesture she makes while saying "meanwhile" is a hand symbol made in either Bhuddism or Theosophy. It has a spiritual meaning, I dont remember what.

 
6. Wednesday, August 29, 2007 1:24 AM
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Yes, it was this board. The gesture or Mudra means "fear not." Google Mudra and see. 

She also puts her finger to the side of her nose.  Snorting?  Charades?  Who knows 

 
7. Wednesday, August 29, 2007 10:50 AM
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I thought the fact that she putt her finger to her nose probably meant the share some knowledge, an understanding together...

it seems to me that she can't do everything there without Mike/'The Arm' noticing, she obviously doesn't want him to know certain things she's telling Coop - like before, as Mike dances around a little, she goes over to Coop to kiss him and then whispers 'the secret' in his ear - she doesn't want Mike to know, maybe that's why she putt the finger to her nose [I know Laura thought Coop [b]was[/b] Mike but that doesn't really matter] - we don't really know Mike's true intentions but it looks like Laura doesn't trust him too much - he claims to Harry and Coop he tries to stop BOB, he was touched by the devilish one but saw the face of God and took the arm off now he's cured etc etc but we all know he didn't do much to help Laura, he even laughed maniacally at the fact that BOB is making Leland kill his own daughter... Way I see it Bob cut himself free from Mike and he wasn't supposed to, Mike is suffering from it, which you can see what it's doing to Gerard's body and needs Bob to kill so he can feed as well? And that's the reason the Lodge inhabitants are tormenting Bob? The only thing they can do is interfere with the people in his host's life and that's all they need to do, as BOB does have to work undercover more or less, he can't go around with people knowing what's what...
So the ring makes BOB inevitably attracted to the bearer, but also more or less protects the bearer from being actually posessed by BOB - driving him and the other crazy...? Rambling on sorry...

 
8. Wednesday, August 29, 2007 11:14 AM
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Heh. You just wrote down enough stuff for at least 3 or 4 new threads

Anyways, I agree on the Mudra thing. But is Laura lying? In the last eps we see her doppleganger (doing the same gesture? I don´t recall??) saying "meanwhile" and then startes screaming. To me this indicates that the next 25 years will be filled with horror -opposed to "fear not".

So is Laura lying? Is the doppelganger? Or did something change? Cooper perhaps?

 

Ditte


Yeah but no but yeah but no but....
 
9. Wednesday, August 29, 2007 12:16 PM
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 Okay I googled Mudra and found something interesting that we might make something out of. This is the "fear not" gesture that we have been talking about.

 Fear Not

Li-Bu-Wei Buddha (statue on far left ): This Buddha's symbolic direction is east. He signifies confidence and fearlessness. The hands are in a mudra of appeasement or consolation. With the daily occurrence of violence and natural disaster around the world, many people find it difficult to face the future. The tranquility gained from following the Buddha's way better enables one to remain calm; like a mountain unmoved by ravaging elements, one can approach each day without fear.

 

What I find interesting about this one is the fact that it is the same gesture, only reversed. I tried to find the two stills of laura and her doppleganger but couldn´t. It would cool if anyone could find them so we couold compare. Now read what it says about this one:

North

 

 


Gan-Lu-Wang Buddha (statue at far right): This Buddha's symbolic position is north. He signifies calmness and purity. His hands are in a mudra of casting out fear. This gesture derives from an incident in which Devadatta, Sakyamuni Buddha's jealous and evil cousin, who set a charging elephant loose upon him.

Without fear, the Buddha calmly sat down and caused the beast to stop and kneel before him. Like a charging elephant, life's problems can overtake the mind. In the interest of survival, one must seek escape. Unfortunately, running away offers only temporary respite and is not a true solution to life. The teachings of the Buddha can purify and calm the mind so that former problems no longer seem so wildly out of control.

 

Hmm ... You shouldn´t have run, Cooper. You should have faced your fears.

Maybe this is a little far fetched, but could LMFAP be the jealous cousin who set the elephant loose on Laura? And later Cooper?  Or is laura her own evil cousin? Or am I rambling?

 

Ditte 

 


Yeah but no but yeah but no but....
 
10. Wednesday, August 29, 2007 1:28 PM
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I had heard that it's just Laura doing her spokesmodel "offering" gesture, & that there were BOB lines cut, where he offered Cooper "annihilation of your soul" or "what's behind the curtain"...  The estate of Monty Hall threatened legal action.

 
11. Thursday, August 30, 2007 5:22 AM
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I don't think the little man is the jealous cousin lol ;) it's pretty clear he's Mike, or at least part of Mike in essence, aside from the fact that he's named Mike in some scripts, for the movie actually I think, he says I am the arm, which isn't just a cryptic clue for Laura to recognize that Mike is coming when they're in the car, [the Indian cry], but comes back in the end of the movie [actual finished product], he puts his hand on Gerard's shoulder and they speak simultaneously to BOB...

I think that's where the nose gesture comes in, the mutual understanding, trust on both parts - Laura saw Dale as her saviour and wether that was BOB or not didn't matter at that time, she just wanted to trust him and let him help her, someone anonymous that doesn't know her but does care about her...like I said, even though she thought Cooper to be Mike, she didn't trust the actual 'Mike', and is using some sort of code to get around him knowing what's going on, the finger on the nose, the bend over to kiss and then whisper...so that's why she [the 'good' Laura] said I'll see you again in 20 or 25 years, meanwhile, face your fears, no matter what or who it is. He's facing evil incarnate, everyone has a dark side - Laura, Annie, Caroline, Windom and Cooper himself, 'one and the same' - evil...Cooper got messed up again having to face the Pittsburgh drama and screwed up, he got scared and started bleeding from what looks like fatal wounds, but yet lives to go back and give it another try, meanwhile achieving very little I suppose...maybe I should dig in Cooper's tapes, they bring some clarity to the whole mess...cause it's all Pittsburgh he's running away from in the end isn't it...

Older script did actually mention Cooper actually offering his soul to Bob in exchange for 'Annie's' I think...

 

 

 

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