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1. Wednesday, January 25, 2006 8:40 PM
lelandloveslaura Ed Hurley: Attempted murder?


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In the character thread for Nadine, Gordon mentioned the possibilty that Ed could have attempted to kill Nadine when he shot her eye out. I must admit, I love this theory
 
I mean think about it...why else would Ed feel so guilty? Why would he say that part of him wanted her to commit suicide? He regretted marrying her from the get-go, and remember:Ina town like Twin Peaks, no one is innocent. So, can you imagine, sweet, noble, do-right Ed as an attempted murderer? Like, in this desperate attempt to get out of the marriage? I think it adds a whole new layer to Ed's character.
 
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2. Wednesday, January 25, 2006 9:48 PM
12rainbow RE: Ed Hurley: Attempted murder?


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Naw. He was preoccupied and a little careless, certainly at fault.  Perhaps there was something subconcious a work- he would've liked to kill Hank, but there was no one around to express his rage at- hence the accident.   I don't think he cared about her 'til he realized how pathetically devoted she was to him, and was there for him when he had given up on true love.

 
3. Thursday, January 26, 2006 2:11 AM
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4. Thursday, January 26, 2006 8:14 AM
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QUOTE:
I mean think about it...why else would Ed feel so guilty?
Ummm, are you serious?  Why else would he feel guilty!?  Because HE SHOT HER FRIGGIN' EYE OUT!  Even if it was an accident, I'd feel pretty guilty if I did that to someone. :)

 
5. Thursday, January 26, 2006 8:22 AM
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Agreed. And really, it's a huge stretch to even try and paint Big Ed as a killer of any kind and Nadine's accident as a botched murder attempt. I think this is a case where someone is just looking for things to form a theory on rather than work with what's there. Sometimes an accident is just an accident...


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6. Thursday, January 26, 2006 11:58 AM
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I'm just asking what you guys think. I just thought it was interesting to see even good old Ed have that kind of a moment of weakness. He did say they were drunk...who knows? But yeah, as far as the feeling guilty thing...I'm sure its just because of the eye, but like I said it adds another layer to Ed's character to think he might have thought about something like that. I love Ed, though, and I'm definatley not trying to sulley his good name.


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7. Thursday, January 26, 2006 12:08 PM
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It's kind of like during the rocks and bottles scene, when Coop throws the rock and it richochets off of a tree then hits Andy square in the head. Same thing happened with that piece of buckshot. Excepy Andy didn't lose an eye.

Poor Ed...poor Nadine.


 
8. Thursday, January 26, 2006 1:12 PM
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I like the idea, LauraLover. Even someone as innocent as Ed having a darker side. Subconsiously, he might want to kill her back then.

I mean, who wouldn´t? She´s a pain in the arse for christ sake!!!!

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9. Thursday, January 26, 2006 2:36 PM
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Am I the only one who keeps thinking of this pair together in "The People Under The Stairs"?


 
10. Thursday, January 26, 2006 4:48 PM
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QUOTE:Am I the only one who keeps thinking of this pair together in "The People Under The Stairs"?

Nope.  ;)

And also, before people start bashing Lelandloves Laura's theories anymore, I think it's fair to say that she does have a valid point.  And even if she is just looking for things to pick at, so what?  It gives us something fresh to discuss doesn't it?  That is hard to do when you're discussing a show that's been dead 14 years.  I think her intuition is spot on.

Not only did Everett Mcgill play a killer in People Under the Stairs, but he also played an evil killer priest in this weird Stephen King film about a wheelchair.  (The name of which escapes me at the moment but it begins with an "S")

Also, if anyone is interested in checking this out, there is indeed a script on GlastonberryGrove.net which was written and Ed was actually the killer..... 



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11. Thursday, January 26, 2006 6:52 PM
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I like your style, Maddy.


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12. Friday, January 27, 2006 12:20 AM
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I mean think about it...why else would Ed feel so guilty? Why would he say that part of him wanted her to commit suicide?


Man, if I had a nickel for every time I secretly prayed for the death of a significant other when the affair was on the rocks...

 
13. Friday, January 27, 2006 1:17 AM
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QUOTE:

QUOTE:Am I the only one who keeps thinking of this pair together in "The People Under The Stairs"?


Not only did Everett Mcgill play a killer in People Under the Stairs, but he also played an evil killer priest in this weird Stephen King film about a wheelchair. (The name of which escapes me at the moment but it begins with an "S")

Silver Bullet. He was a werewolf.


 
14. Friday, January 27, 2006 2:36 AM
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Uh...ok I get the point. Its not cool to have a differing view point. here. Will never happen again. Sorry for trying to start up a new theory! I mean....saying the same thing over and over is cool, too, I guess.


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15. Friday, January 27, 2006 3:45 AM
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We're all about new theories here. Just don't expect to be taken seriously if you pull something incredible out of your arse with absolutely no evidence to back it up. Theories for the sake of theories won't fly.

 
16. Friday, January 27, 2006 5:07 AM
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It's obviously Ed wanted both Hank & Nadine out of the way, but I doubt he would resort to murder.


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17. Friday, January 27, 2006 5:13 AM
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I certainly think you could argue that it was an unconscious desire, but as everybody else says, it couldn't have been premeditated, because of Ed's general character, the way he recounts the story, and his actions following the incident.

 

PS - the way Albert reacts to that story is one of my favourite funny moments of the whole show! The man actually cries with laughter - priceless!

Cooper: Poor Ed

Truman: Yeah

Rosenfeld: Yeah


Has he taken his eyes off it yet?

 
18. Friday, January 27, 2006 9:36 AM
KahlanMnel RE: Ed Hurley: Attempted murder?

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QUOTE:Uh...ok I get the point. Its not cool to have a differing view point. here. Will never happen again. Sorry for trying to start up a new theory! I mean....saying the same thing over and over is cool, too, I guess.

Thicker skin, hun...thicker skin. Otherwise you might as well avoid discussions here because it's not often that everyone agrees with what anyone says.


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19. Friday, January 27, 2006 12:10 PM
lelandloveslaura RE: Ed Hurley: Attempted murder?


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I don't want everyone to agree with me...I'm glad they don't! I just felt like every one was like appalled that I came up with this thing. I think I should have made it clearer that I didn't think that Ed was capable of a pre-meditated murder, just that it could have been some moment of fiery passion or some junk. But either way, I'm not bothered. Just trying to make conversation. Also, it was like 4am and I was still in an angry-drunk state when I posted my smarmy retort. So, sorry to come off as a whiny bee-otch, but I guess I just didn't appreciate the whole "You're pulling theories out of your ass" thing.


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20. Friday, January 27, 2006 12:25 PM
KahlanMnel RE: Ed Hurley: Attempted murder?

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QUOTE:I guess I just didn't appreciate the whole "You're pulling theories out of your ass" thing.

Yeah, I can understand that.  Hope you're not scared off or anything now. We like new folks!


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21. Friday, January 27, 2006 10:56 PM
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My reasoning tells me that the idea of Ed wanting to kill Nadine is absolutely non-sense, considering how he cares about her and how he is... However, as I said in my thread that theory has always intrigued me, as a small possibility, like if Ed thought about it for just one moment or better yet, that he considered what would have happened if she had died and that if that really was a bad thing. Again, "Lost" comes to mind... When Locke makes Boone think Shannon has died and when he asks him what he felt, he says "Relief"...

The same thing here... It wasn't a planned murder and Ed is not a killer, but is something that maybe was there in his subconscious when that event happened. And I bet he would have felt relief, if only a bit, if she died... But as have been said correctly there's no evidence to support this, just speculation, like in the case of funny or not so funny little "theories" not to be taken serious like Pete spying Audrey and JJW having sex, Audrey actually losing his virginity in OEJ or the Horne Bros. losing theirs with Louise Dombrowski... And what was Dell Mibbler thinking when he saw such a pretty girl like Audrey tied in front of him???

In TP anything is possible. Do you know what's in the characters minds all the time? Because I don't... Did Leo know that someone was there with him and the boys in the woods? Why Hawk stopped to follow the OEM in the morgue? What about the strange look in Mj. Briggs face when Sarah phones Betty?

 
22. Monday, January 30, 2006 2:25 PM
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QUOTE:

My reasoning tells me that the idea of Ed wanting to kill Nadine is absolutely non-sense, considering how he cares about her and how he is... However, as I said in my thread that theory has always intrigued me, as a small possibility, like if Ed thought about it for just one moment or better yet, that he considered what would have happened if she had died and that if that really was a bad thing

But don't you think that maybe..just maybe...he SECRETLY didn't care if she died, so that way she wouldn't be in his way as far as Norma was concerned?  As far as Hank went, well, his actions speak for themselves, so he was out of the way and Nadine WAS the only obstacle.... 

And I don't think he cares about Nadine at all!  Sure, he puts on those big puppy dog eyes and says he couldn't have broken her heart after he shot her eye out, but then he found out Norma had married Hank.  Ed himself says he was "half drunk, half crazy", so Nadine was probably just nothing more than a way to get back at Norma and upset her for what he THOUGHT she'd done.  When  he found out she hadn't actually married Hank, maybe he was just hoping Nadine would go away.  And also, if you care about a person so much I don't think you should be having an affair with them for 20 years...

Just a thought..:-) 

 

. Again, "Lost" comes to mind... When Locke makes Boone think Shannon has died and when he asks him what he felt, he says "Relief"...

 Wouldn't you be relived if you had a sister as much of a spoilt brat as Shannon was?

 

 

The same thing here... It wasn't a planned murder and Ed is not a killer, but is something that maybe was there in his subconscious when that event happened. And I bet he would have felt relief, if only a bit, if she died...

I think he would have felt more than a bit.   He was already filing for divorce and really, she just seemed nothing more than an inconvenience.

 

I mean, don't get me wrong, I love good old Ed too!  But I think he easily could have been painted a different way,and ended up, I would go so far as to say, being Laura's killer... 



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