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1. Thursday, July 19, 2007 10:15 AM
giospurs Lost Highway Confusion


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Is it only me that thinks that lost Highway is not completely confusing. I don't claim to understand everything in the film and I don't think everything is there to be understood but the main plot concerning Fred's creaton of Pete Dayton as a new persona to escape from his guilt isn't completely unintelligible. Looking over the imdb board's threads on this film it seems that even some of the big fans of the fiml had no idea what it was about. Lost Highway is often labelled as the most complicated Lynch film but I think that Mulholland Drive is harder to comprehend and haven't yet seen Inland Empire so can't comment on that one. I also don't find LH that weird compared to Eraserhead or Wild at heart

 
2. Friday, July 20, 2007 5:33 AM
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The posters on IMDB aren't representative of the majority of David Lynch fans. There are far too many threads asking what things mean for my liking, and that misses the point completely. If people can't invest time in a DL film and have to be told what everything means, what are they really getting from it anyway? They tend to be the same people who refer to DL films as "weird".

There isn't one interpretation of Lost Highway - or any of DL's films for that matter. I think most long-term DL fans realise it's not about cracking some secret code so much as assembling the pieces in a way that makes sense to you. I know what it means to me, but other people might not agree.

 


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3. Friday, July 20, 2007 11:56 AM
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I am getting sick of people referring to things as "weird" all the time.

We were watching Amelie in school a few days ago and all this kid kept on saying was "This is so weird". It's like some people just can't deal with anything that is out of the ordinary

 
4. Friday, July 20, 2007 2:51 PM
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calm down darlin giospurs :)

 
5. Saturday, July 21, 2007 6:55 AM
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For me Lost Highway was a major shock when I saw it for the first time but I did not find it confusing - on the contrary, it was so painfully clear and striking what was what in the film... frightfully clear considering how close to me this film appeared to be!

But then on this message board I found that some people understood it quite differently from me and more than differently - oppositely! Now that was confusing alright


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6. Saturday, July 21, 2007 10:47 AM
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QUOTE:

I am getting sick of people referring to things as "weird" all the time.

We were watching Amelie in school a few days ago and all this kid kept on saying was "This is so weird". It's like some people just can't deal with anything that is out of the ordinary


 Yeah, people are so weird!!! Ooops...

 
7. Wednesday, July 25, 2007 5:13 AM
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I am not going to say anything "weird", but one thing that popped in my head when I was at the theater Monday night watching LH was at the party at Andy's. After the Mystery Man leaves and Fred goes over to Andy and asks who he is, then Andy says he's a friend of Dick Laurent's he thinks. So, after Fred says Dick is dead right and Andy gets all perturbed and says Dick can't be dead, Renee walks up and says who's dead...they way they are both looking at Fred, I found myself saying "You both are. You're both dead and so is Dick"....just an observation...           


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8. Wednesday, July 25, 2007 7:39 AM
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Cool observation! I'd agree about Renee and Andy - Dick is a more confusing character for me - the way I see it, he seems to be almost entirely a manifestation of Fred's inner self!


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9. Thursday, July 26, 2007 5:49 AM
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this post has spoilers, just in case you've wandered in here and haven't traveled the Lost Highway   

Thanks TITG, that's an interesting take on Dick. Were you around when we had a discussion on the "order of the murders" committed by Fred Madison. It was pretty interesting. I can see how one could look at Dick that way. After all, Dick is with the Mystery Man when he calls Pete and later it looked like the Mystery Man kills Dick (even though I believe it is Fred killing him and with the disappearance of the Mystery Man, the last of Fred's repressed memories are remembered)Fred is psychologically killing off his alter-egos or whatever you want to call them and now has to face who he is and what he's done, but he's not able to do it and tries to escape by fugue-ing out again at the end (to me at the end he's getting electrocuted in Da Chair and the whole movie is him struggling with what he's done, but he is able to confront his deeds before his execution). Nice call.         


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10. Friday, August 17, 2007 4:19 AM
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A video-store clerk once described that Robin Williams flick One Hour Photo to me as "really weird". Um, no it ain't, it's just dull.


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11. Saturday, August 18, 2007 8:29 AM
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QUOTE:A video-store clerk once described that Robin Williams flick One Hour Photo to me as "really weird". Um, no it ain't, it's just dull.

 I guess "weird" is in the eye of the beholder...

 
12. Friday, September 21, 2007 4:02 PM
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The first time I watched LH I was with some friends of mine on a sofa. We watched films all night long (an usual thing in our company of true cinema lovers), but the only one I remember was LH. Two friends of mine got asleep about at three A.M., just a little before the film started. And so it was a surreal atmosphere, darkness all around, people sleeping, and me and my best friend awake, with our eyes wide open fixing the tv screen...And that strange sensation that Viktor Sklovskij better called "estrangement".

I remember there was no need to understand any plot at all. When the film ended, we took the dvd off and said in chorus: "now it's time to go to bed."

 


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13. Saturday, September 22, 2007 11:01 AM
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QUOTE:

The posters on IMDB aren't representative of the majority of David Lynch fans. There are far too many threads asking what things mean for my liking, and that misses the point completely. If people can't invest time in a DL film and have to be told what everything means, what are they really getting from it anyway? They tend to be the same people who refer to DL films as "weird".

There isn't one interpretation of Lost Highway - or any of DL's films for that matter. I think most long-term DL fans realise it's not about cracking some secret code so much as assembling the pieces in a way that makes sense to you. I know what it means to me, but other people might not agree.

 

 

Maybe you take that for granted anyway, but the basic premise of Lost Highway is not complicated at all: Someone who´s sentenced to death imagines he´s someone else After realizing that his fantasy allows him no real escape, the protagonist falls back to his starting point.
 

 
14. Thursday, August 21, 2008 4:18 PM
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Initially, it was very confusing and disorienting, but on repeated viewings and reading WIP and online I think I've got it nailed down pretty good. I think Eraserhead and INLAND EMPIRE take the cake on complexity and abstractions.


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15. Friday, August 22, 2008 1:28 PM
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QUOTE:Initially, it was very confusing and disorienting, but on repeated viewings and reading WIP and online I think I've got it nailed down pretty good. I think Eraserhead and INLAND EMPIRE take the cake on complexity and abstractions.

I had a very similar experience with Lost Highway and agree with your statement about INLAND EMPIRE and Eraserhead. If the viewer merely rejects the typical reaction of perceiving a film of David Lynch to be "weird", I believe that it is surprising how simple it is to develop a relatively complete, personal understanding.  

 

 
16. Friday, August 22, 2008 4:15 PM
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I got my greasy mitts on a press kit the same week the movie came to my town. It says it, right there, from the man himself, "psychogenic fugue."   You look that up on the internet, all becomes clear.

 

 
17. Saturday, August 23, 2008 8:57 AM
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QUOTE:

I got my greasy mitts on a press kit the same week the movie came to my town. It says it, right there, from the man himself, "psychogenic fugue."   You look that up on the internet, all becomes clear.

 


 It's just hilarious how our minds are wired to process what we see at face value and Lynch's films don't operate like that in the least, so you have to prepare your mind for an altered approach to his works which is why is he is such a genius.


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