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1. Friday, April 27, 2007 3:52 PM
kidicarus56 LMFAP/the arm


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so i was wondering, they say many times that LMFAP is Mike's arm (or hint at it very heavily) but in the cave petroglyph, the very ancient one, has paintings of the giant and the dwarf.  gerard is just a host, and cant be more than fifty or so, so he is obviously not gerards arm. this hints that mike was once a human and cut off his arm LONG LONG ago, yes? or no? (seems illogical that a spirit could dismember himself) either that or maybe many lodge inhabitants resemble giants and dwarves? even though its said that LMFAP is the arm, i dont quite buy it.  but help me out. haha

 
2. Friday, April 27, 2007 4:17 PM
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QUOTE:so i was wondering, they say many times that LMFAP is Mike's arm (or hint at it very heavily) but in the cave petroglyph, the very ancient one, has paintings of the giant and the dwarf. gerard is just a host, and cant be more than fifty or so, so he is obviously not gerards arm. this hints that mike was once a human and cut off his arm LONG LONG ago, yes? or no? (seems illogical that a spirit could dismember himself) either that or maybe many lodge inhabitants resemble giants and dwarves? even though its said that LMFAP is the arm, i dont quite buy it. but help me out. haha

Can't LMFAP be both the arm AND the dwarf? No wait, this was discussed before - Mike lost his arm long ago and when he took his recent host he chose a man with one arm because it felt more natural. The tatoos were different. What did Mike's tatoo say?

 
3. Friday, April 27, 2007 4:56 PM
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ah ok, thanks for answering! i looked thru the topics and didnt see it addressed before, sorry for being redundant.

 oh, and his tattoo said 'mom'. haha

 
4. Friday, April 27, 2007 5:12 PM
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ah ok, thanks for answering! i looked thru the topics and didnt see it addressed before, sorry for being redundant.

oh, and his tattoo said 'mom'. haha

Gerard's tatoo said "mom". I think Mike didn't have a tatoo - his arm loss was his tatoo. There are others more knowledgable here than I...

Did Gerard ever say how his arm was lost?

 

It does seem that the Dwarf is playing dual roles though.

 

Also, it seems like Twin Peaks is represented as a large and small peak no? I'm thinking of that symbol they found towards the end of the series. Could the Giant and Dwarf be spirits of the peaks? 


 
5. Friday, April 27, 2007 8:12 PM
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yea, thats a good theory.  basically everthing in TP represents some kind of duality. oh, and  gerard said he lost his arm in a car accident i believe.

 
6. Friday, April 27, 2007 10:27 PM
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QUOTE:yea, thats a good theory.  basically everthing in TP represents some kind of duality. oh, and  gerard said he lost his arm in a car accident i believe.

 And the car "accident" could have been Mike's way of removing the arm. Hmmm?


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7. Saturday, April 28, 2007 5:28 AM
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I once started to think that what if the LMFAP didn't mean he was the arm of Mike but more like the arm of every human being. While BOB would represent the evil thoughts and cravings of a human being, the LMFAP would represent the part of body that is used to change the thoughts (both good and bad) into action, the arm.

Then we could connect the dwarf shaking in Cooper's dream to the shaking hands in later episodes.

This might be pretty far fetched but I see it as an interesting thing to discuss about nevertheless. 

 
8. Sunday, April 29, 2007 4:48 AM
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I get your points, but remember that in FWWM the LMFAP puts his hand on Mike's shoulder and they both start to speak the same words at the same time. To me, that makes it very obvious that the LMFAP is the arm of Mike.


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9. Sunday, April 29, 2007 7:40 AM
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QUOTE:I get your points, but remember that in FWWM the LMFAP puts his hand on Mike's shoulder and they both start to speak the same words at the same time. To me, that makes it very obvious that the LMFAP is the arm of Mike.

Well, if he's the arm of everyone, he certainly is the arm of Mike also.

Mike got rid of his arm, the body part that he used to act out his temptations and the will to kill. If Bob would be the evil that men do, or the evil thoughts and temptations of man and LMFAP would be the arm that people use to make the thoughts and temptations into action, Mike could represent a human being who's separated himself from the will to do evil. Then when facing Bob, Mike has to become what he once was to have the power to make Bob to give the garmonbozia away. Hence the contact between LMFAP and Mike. After all, that scene happens in a place where it's "natural" to show abstractions happening "in materials and combinations of atoms" (as Mrs. Tremond/Chalfont said in the script of FWWM).

Of course, it could be so that the abstraction as a form of a little man has been, mythologically speaking, created from this one man, Mike, getting his "evil" arm severed. But even so, the LMFAP could represent the arms in general. Just like BOB can be thought as being "the evil that men do" in general.


 

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